Observed by bratton on Wed, Apr 11 2007
If the coffee guy can get a decent restricted permit, wouldn't a chief have more than a PBA card?
Classify this under the Law of Dash Accumulation: whosoever layeth multiple and sundry items meant to convey officialdom on the dash is full of it.
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Posted on Thu, Apr 12 2007 at 01:25 AM
I think you can buy those get out of jail cards. What's with the shield and the summons book?
Posted on Thu, Apr 12 2007 at 07:21 AM
Ebay has the PBA cards and the mini shields on sale. Not sure where the book came from or even if it is a summons book. I think this is a civilian trying to get out of a ticket, not a NYC employee.
Whatever happened to putting empty M&M packages on the dash? :)
Posted on Thu, Apr 12 2007 at 12:38 PM
No self respecting cop would issue a summons to a car with an official PBA card. The these courtesy cards are only second to a parking permit. Once I saw the card on the dash I would walk away without giving it a second thought. You see, it does pay to have a friend or a family member on the job. These cards carry some weight and the courtesy is pretty much always extended.
By the way, cops can tell which ones are legit and which ones are fugazzy. Hint: It has to do with a certain pattern printed on the PBA cards. Sorry I will not let you in our secret.
Posted on Thu, Apr 12 2007 at 01:48 PM
No self respecting cop would write it but "meter maids" would. Your brothers and sisters in law enforcement sure show you guys a ton of respect.
Posted on Thu, Apr 12 2007 at 01:53 PM
Ahem, meter maids are not our brothers or sisters. We show them no courtesy just like any other civilian who parks illegally. Cops are not to be lumped into the same sentence as meter maids. They are not part of the Blue Wall. Long ago, when they were called brownies. they started a summons war with the NYPd that eventually caused their demise. The system was flooded with brownies who were driving around with suspended licenses. It was as simple as waiting at their basees and stopping them as they exited their parking facilities. Sure we got summonsed here and there but we all know movers are more painful than parkers. Eventually they called for a truce which was quickly followed by a merger that was unwanted. Till this day cops do not extend them any courtesy.
Posted on Fri, Apr 13 2007 at 08:21 AM
1. Not all the PBA cards on EBAY are fake. There are plenty of "friends" or family that sell their cards or extra cards on EBAY.
2. This holier than thou attitude regarding "brownies" is laughable. You guys may carry guns, may be real law enforcement officials but your lackluster approach to enforcing the law or enforcing the law only when you feel like it is sickening. If a civilian without a PBA card or mini shield is parked at a hydrant can be ticketed by you guys but a civilian with a PBA card or mini shield can park at the same hydrant and not get a summons is a the real reason for this site.
Does a car parked at a hydrant with a PBA card pose less of a hazard then one parked at the same hydrant without a PBA card? The selective enforcement of the law is worse than anything the "brownies" could ever do.
Posted on Fri, Apr 13 2007 at 08:29 AM
I write all persons with PBA cards regardless of who they say they are. If in fact they are affiliated with law enforcement they must bring that LEO to court with them to vouch for them.
Posted on Fri, Apr 13 2007 at 12:52 PM
#9, I can tell that you are a civilian imposter trying to claim that your a cop of some sort. May I say that what you just blathered about made no sense. Real cops just don't do what you just stated. Your statement is utterly ridiculous and I thank you for making me laugh this afternoon. HAHAHHA, bring your LEO to court you said. OH MY GOD that is too funny. The fact of the matter is that if you are not lucky enough to possess a legit PBA card then you are up sh@t's creek. This courtesy card has it's benefits which is evident from the posters pictures above.
#8, let me let you in on a little secret my naive pal. Besides having a gun and a badge I am armed with "discretion". This weapon allows me to pick and choose who I will write a summons too. If I see a legit PBA card in the window I will not, I repeat "WILL NOT", write a summons to that individual's car because he is blessed with a fellow officer's PBA card. Being jealous because this individual has one and you do not is a sign of extreme envy. In my book the driver in possession of a legit PBA card will always get a free pass. You might call it corruption but I call it discretion and there is nothing that you can do about it except buy more kleenex.
I frankly do not care if the parking condition being created by the PBA card holder is hazardous. The courtesy is granted automatically upon witnessing the PBA card and the minishield on the dash.
For the record, what you call selective enforcement we call discretion. It is perfectly legit and try persuading a nypd official that it is not. I am paid to enforce the law but it is up to the individual to decide who gets a summons and who does not. Unfortunately if you are not a member og the PBA inner circle you will be posting quite a lot on this site.
LOL.
Posted on Fri, Apr 13 2007 at 03:36 PM
He calls it discretion, I call it dereliction of duty.
These comments are a good basis for legal action.
Posted on Fri, Apr 13 2007 at 03:39 PM
#10, it's back to the academy for you. You know as well as I do that systematically favoring PBA cardholders in enforcing the law is not discretion but corruption. Tell me, what other unlawful conduct do you forgive for PBA card holders? C'mon, it's an anonymous site . . . tell us! Let's see just how far the corruption goes.
Posted on Fri, Apr 13 2007 at 08:59 PM
Naive? No. Sickened? Yes. You are charged with enforcing the law, not interpreting it. You selectively enforce it, call it what you want. And I hope every PBA card you don't write is bought of EBAY or belongs to a be a "brownie" with a third cousin twice removed on the job.
May God have mercy on your soul if a summons you didn't write results in the death of an innocent person.
Posted on Sat, Apr 14 2007 at 12:55 PM
Legit PBA cards=Free pass.
END OF STORY.
Posted on Sun, Apr 15 2007 at 01:27 AM
The PBA cards and mini shield all look legit to me. Courtesy would definatley be extended to this driver by me. If we do not look out for our own who will?
A past poster stated the truth when he said we are armed with discretion.
Posted on Sun, Apr 15 2007 at 05:11 PM
It's not a courtesy if he's in the hydrant. The law calls it dereliction of duty. I call it corruption.
Courtesy is when you catch an MOS's wife blowing the light by accident and you cut her a break, not by looking the other way on a serious safety violation because someone is related to someone in your gang. And you define gang by saying it's okay to let one of your "own" break the law.
Posted on Sun, Apr 15 2007 at 07:13 PM
No such thing as dereliction of duty in the NYPD. This is the NYPD not the US Army you fool.
If I do not write the summons for a person parked on the hydrant it is my discretion and there is nothing to change that.
I give courtesy to who I feel like giving it to so do not try to presume that you are my boss.
Call it what you want. Gang, buddies, co-workers, relatives, they all get a free pass from me but you sir, you get a summons because you do not belong to my click club. LOL.
Posted on Sun, Apr 15 2007 at 07:47 PM
#20, blowing the light isn't a serious safety violation?
Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 02:44 AM
I blow the red lights off and on duty all the time. Who is going to stop me? I bet it wont be any of the whiny civilians here.
Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 04:07 PM
#24 -- you have occasional constructive comments with and without bragging. I am a volunteer EMS on LI and respond to many motor vehicle accidents caused by those who blow lights, etc. Hopefully the next one we pick up won't be you or some kid you hit blowing that light! Before anyone tells me to go back to Podunk, I was born and raised on the lower east side and left for the same reasons that many cops and firement did. And yes, I have a full time job (very well paying)and family on the NYPD so I see both sides.
Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 01:27 AM
Mike, I do it all the time as well. If and when I get stopped I tin the cops and we have a chuckle about it. I guess the average citizen would be confronted by an officer who would forgo the chuckle and would reward the civilian with a hefty redlight summons.
Yeah, it is good to be the police.
Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 06:19 PM
#24- I Applaud Your Comments.
Posted on Sat, Apr 21 2007 at 12:03 AM
I Meant to Applaud #25s Comment Not #24s. I Stated that Right After I Posted it, Don't Know Why it was Removed??
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