Triple Play

Observed by hanuman on Sat, Apr 14 2007

This car efficiently violates three laws simultaneously -- parked in a crosswalk, parked too close to a hydrant, illegal use of permit -- at the north-east corner of 93rd St. & West End Avenue. It occupies this non-space scores of times a year, and has for the past few years, never receiving a ticket.

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anonymous

Posted on Sun, Apr 15 2007 at 02:20 PM

It's not a safety hazard or a summonsable offense unless you do it.

Frank Serpico

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 02:44 PM

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RE: #4 says "How many homes have burned down or bikers have been critically injured by an "illegally" parked car with a L/E plaque in the window???"

So what? There is no justifying rudeness and inconsideration for the community you work in.

34 screams "347 FIREFIGHTERS 60 POLICE OFFICERS 3 COURT OFFICERS AND 1 FBI AGENT PERISHED IN THEIR EFFORTS TO SAVE YOU THE CIVILIANS FROM CERTAIN DEATH, I DON'T THINK ONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THE NERVE OR GALL TO POST ONE...JUST ONE...TOPIC ABOUT THE WAY WE PARKED THAT WHOLE MONTH!!!"

So what? I wasn't there, you did nothing for me. Now stop thinking you're a hero and get your personal car off the sidewalk!

Frank Serpico

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 03:43 PM

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I'd rather they park their vehicles in PAY GARAGES on official business to avoid ticketing by city agencies at the behest of civilian complaints AT TAXPAYERS EXPENSE then spend the money on a war for oil any day of the week.

annoyed

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 04:24 PM

9/11 is irrelevant here. We are talking about the illegal parking of cars for personal use. NYPD, FDNY and other agences should follow the law just like the millions of citizens of NYC have to do each day.

FHH

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 05:50 PM

You claim that 9/11 is not relevant here. Of course it is, as a prime example of the issues that face the City. Uniformed personnel do not have the luxury of relying on Mass Transit as their work schedules are not consistent enough to rely on a bus or train schedule. Add into that overtime, changes in working hours, etc. - uniformed personnel have to travel by private auto. Another reason - most uniformed workers don't work in Midtown or Lower Manhattan, Mass Transit is not readily available to many of the areas they serve........

It's time for you to 'fess up to the REAL reason you're upset - you're jealous of the fact that emergency workers are given parking plaques. You feel it should be your birthrite to have one also. If you want your emergency workers to be able to get to work, occasionally immediately after receiving a phone call, then provisions have to be made. Go around any precinct, firehouse, EMS station & see if there is really enough parking to accomodate the personnel assigned there........

Get over yourselves & the thought that everybody should have the same "priveleges". Sometimes allownaces have to be made, especially for the people that are there to protect you, your family & your way of life....

Frank Serpico

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 07:11 PM

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"their work schedules are not consistent enough to rely on a bus or train schedule."

The subway runs 24/7/365. If the buses are not running, one can take a cab from the subway. That would still be cheaper then the cost of gas.

"You feel it should be your birthrite to have one also."

No, but I feel that if I am supposed to follow the laws that have been created to make this world a more civilized place then others should do so as well. We can not always agree with those laws, but you still have to follow them, not just because you may get a ticket but because that would be the proper thing to do in a CIVILized society. What the real issue is, these UNCIVIL servants feel that when they are done from work that they should be able to walk one block to their safe friendly car and drive home from work. They will try and justify this UNCIVIL behavior by claiming that their work is more important then others, that they are heroes due to the fact that some of them years ago were killed in a terrorist attack. Whatever. That just don't cut the mustard forever.

But even beyond that matter is the fact that not only do they drive to work, but when they get to their work they park like total assholes. It'd be one thing if they parked CIVILized not blocking crosswalks, fire hydrants, bus stops and parking on sidewalks but they just do not seem to care. But they think they are afforded some right or perk and that is not how a CIVILised society functions.

Really now, it's time to behave.

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 08:37 PM

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#23- Hanging Into the Cross Walk & Within 15 Feet of the Hydrant!!! IT'S a VIOLATION! Ordinary Citizens Would Have Been Summonsed TWICE!!! Bottom Line is ANYONE Who Parks in This City Should Follow the Same Rules!!!!!!

FHH

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 09:42 PM

"The subway runs 24/7/365. If the buses are not running, one can take a cab from the subway. That would still be cheaper then the cost of gas."

You're right, they do run 24/7/365. What they DON'T do, however, is run near most of the precincts or firehouses or EMS stations throughout the City. Do you think on a cop's salary it's enjoyable paying close to $3.00 a gallon for gas? Yet the people that protect you pay that, instead of taking the bus or subway for free as they are entitled to do, because they need to do that to get to work. There is also the issue of how much time is spent away from their families, especially when overtime is brought into play, and especially at night when the trains and/or buses are few & far between......

Add to that the fact that their are times private vehicles need to be used because the emergency worker may be getting assigned to a different place for the tour & they need to get around when there are no Department vehicles available to get them from one place to another.......

I also love the bright light who would rather have the City pay a couple of hundred dollars per month, per vehicle to garage City owned vehicles - thank God you're not in charge of the City budget.......

The more I read your posts the more I am convinced your only issue is why you can't have a permit. You sound more & more childish the more you post, the kind of kid that would take his ball & go home because he was picked last......

WEARETHEPOLICE

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 09:51 PM

I'm just stating facts WE ARE THE POLICE. You chose to interpet it anyway your little mind wants to. And you Know what dont questions the way we provide for your safety just say thank you and move on. Or else put on a gunbelt and a vest and walk a foot post.

RMP54

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 10:05 PM

Instead of crying behind a computer why don't you take that picture and walk of to the pct that the plaque belongs to. And ask to speak to the officer and voice him/her your concerns. Instead of being big and bad behind a computer.

MichaelDowd

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 10:19 PM

All this back and forth bickering is for not. I proudly exploit my NYPD issued parking permit just like you exploit the fact that you can take home as much paper as you want from your employment at Fedex-Kinkos. Everyone exploits their job perks here and there. I am no different than the average employed person. Where you might over indulge with the free coffee and cookies provided by your office, I do the same with my parking permit. I will not sit here and claim that I am innocent. I am far from that but then again I do not give a crap what the average citizen thinks about my acts of parking abuse. I abuse my permit because I can and that is that. You can call my actions corrupt but I call it a job perk the I have been known to proudly abuse from time to time.

When I go to the movies, I park at a meter and thow it up

When I go to the store, I double park and throw the permit on the dash.

When I visit my girlfriend, I park it at the precinct across the street and stay all night.

When I go to the museum ,I park in a no parking spot at a church and I put the permit on the dash.

Above are a few examples of what I do with my permit on a regular basis. I do it because being in the NYPD is a brotherhood and all cops look out for each other. Even if I were to get a summons I could go to that precinct and have it pulled out of the box. Even if I can't have it pulled out of the box I can always go to traffic court section and talk to a special someone there and have it squashed.

Bottom line is that my permit is a perk that I value more than my free bridge and tunnel EZ pass or my free transit metro card. It will never be taken away from me and I will never be reprimanded for my parking behavior. I know I have an abuse problem but I can deal with and control it. Really I can.

MichaelDowd

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 10:22 PM

"Instead of crying behind a computer why don't you take that picture and walk of to the pct that the plaque belongs to. And ask to speak to the officer and voice him/her your concerns. Instead of being big and bad behind a computer."

Before you do this tell me which precinct you will walk into so I can meet you there. I want to be a witness to this funny moment in time. My bet is that you will be EDPed and sent to the hospital. Maybe they will just stroke you or if your lucky they will only laugh in your face.

Go on and try it.

TomBrooklyn

Posted on Mon, Apr 16 2007 at 11:55 PM

Big deal. Pedestrians, if there were any, would have plenty of room in crosswalk. There is plenty of access to fire hydrant also.

hiLIARy-clintoon

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 12:24 AM

if the police dont give tickets for this, then I am joining in...come on,join me...

JimmyJustice

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 03:58 AM

Here is my comment to all the cops who overtly flout the same laws that they have sworn to uphold...

You cops who violate the law by parking your personal vehicles improperly have commented here that the vehicles in question may violate 3 laws but regardless still poses no danger to the public.

If that is the case, then why are so many parking tickets written to civilians for the exact same violations---even when the offending vehicle poses no danger to the public?

Now answer that buddy!

petergriffin

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 09:56 AM

To the administrators of this site. I guess free speech only applies to civilians who want to post on this. If you want this site to be a good discussion board between citizens and the so-called "uncivil" servants, why do you censor us? Why take a post off that brings up a lot of valid points? Why leave posts that totally disrespect the memories of our fallen brothers. That is why this site will never have any legitamacy. Let the civilians rant, but also let us respond in kind. Stop taking our posts off, or no one will ever listen to you.

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 10:32 AM

The constant blocking of fire hydrants by film crews all over NYC should be photographed and exposed on this website. They never get get ticketed either and the potential for danger is very great.

Also, most police precincts built were done so with inadequate parking for both cops and visitors. This should be addressed with city hall to come up with more off street parking lots for these facilities. The individual cops cannot be blamed for this.

Thanks

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 10:34 AM

"The subway runs 24/7/365. If the buses are not running, one can take a cab from the subway. That would still be cheaper then the cost of gas. "

Where exactly do you catch a cab in the outer boros at 3 or 4 am? It's nearly impossible.

And how is it cheaper then gas? The initial charge for a Taxi is $2.00 and then $0.30 per 1/5th Mile. I'd say my nearest subway is apx 3/5th mile from my house, thats $2.90 minimum. I do NOT spend that much on gas for the trip!

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 11:40 AM

That car is not BLOCKING the crosswalk.

BicyclesOnly

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 12:24 PM

Once again, a string of irrelevant comments from LE and LE wannabees consisting of ad hominen attacks on the poster and general praise for the PD. The question raised by this post is neither (1) who can regress furthest into grammar school homophobia or xenophobia nor (2) whether the PD is "magnificent," but (3) whether a PD employee who gets a restricted parking pass intended for use at the precinct should be allowed to use it to park illegally near home, and whether it is OK for parking LE to turn a blind eye to the illegal parking. However "magnificent" one may think the PD is, when status as PD employee is abused for private gain by off- and on-duty PD personnel, the PD becomes less so.

#47 is the only rational comment among the detractors, although it too fails to recognize that this post has nothing to do with how much parking was built around precincts--this is parking abuse by an officer near where he or she lives. But I do agree with #47 that the city should be doing more, for example:

1) NYPD personnel who do not ordinarily work OT should not get permits; this will reduce competition for spaces.

2) Pay a lump-sum cash-out to officers who give up their permits voluntarily.

3) Reimburse the cost of a cab or car service to officers who do OT, or get off from a regular shift, between midnight and 6 am. Those officers can use public transportation to get to work and be assured of a ride home at no cost. (This may make it tough to get to O'Neil's quickly after work, but those are the breaks.) Cap the reimbursement at ~$40. To the extent it costs more than that amount to get the officer home via cab or car service, the officer covers it out of the lump-sum cash-out. Allow officers who drive others in the personal vehicle to get the reimbursement (this solves the "O'Neil's problem").

4) Convert sufficient curbside spaces near precincts to accommodate all the NYPD- owned vehicles and the small number of personal vehicles that for extraordinary reasons need to be parked near the precinct.

5) Enforce the parking rules against all other vehicles, and pursue fraud charges against those with fake or fraudulent permits.

These are the kind of "perks" that private sector employees get; I have no problem with NYPD getting them. #47 and others may wonder why we are trying to get these kind of changes by publicizing parking violations by individual public employees rather than circulating a petition or lobbying a legislator. The reason is that those methods have been attempted nad have failed. The administration and public employees all benefit personally and institutionally from the free parking scam, so they won't do anything about it unless forced to. That's why this site is needed, to expose the corruption for what it is. Any public employee who thinks the current system is a "perk" and not corruption is kidding themselves.

WEARETHEPOLICE

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 12:36 PM

4) Convert sufficient curbside spaces near precincts to accommodate all the NYPD- owned vehicles and the small number of personal vehicles that for extraordinary reasons need to be parked near the precinct.

Thats a SEZ.

Salguod

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 02:25 PM

#54 -- there are (at least) two meanings of the term "SEZ." One meaning -- the meaning most people pro- or con- here use -- is "an unsigned area informally designated by a police or other city facility where TEAs do not ticket unless instructed by the entity that has designated the area." There is no basis in law for these areas, and they are apparently used by parkers and comment posters on this website as an excuse to park on sidewalks, block hydrants, park in no standing areas, etc. etc.

The other meaning that DOT and possibly #54 has for SEZ is "an area with signs specifically designating parking for personnel within a particular agency."

The first kind of "SEZ" is thep problem, not the second kind. The second kind doesn't happen unless (a) DOT determines that it works with respect to other considerations (traffic, safety) and (b) the community board approves it. It's not a flawless process, but it's better than a C.O. suddenly deciding he needs more parking and unilaterally deciding to annex the sidewalk and a lane of traffic that DOT thought would be empty when they did their traffic plan.

bklyncop1

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 02:46 PM

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Is the car parked over the crosswalk line? Yes... is it blocking the crosswalk creating a hazardous condition? NO... Whats wrong with you take pictures of legitamate violations dont just snap at any car with a plaque in the window. Get a life.

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 02:58 PM

Whatever. This site is losing steam and will fade into the background soon. The moderators will say no, we're aggressively filing FOIL requests to get information on these bad people. But look at the number of photos posted.

WEARETHEPOLICE

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 03:54 PM

58 original comments edited down to 29 the liberals hate censorship unless it benefits their cause

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 05:13 PM

Hey, they think I'm bashing the NYPD because I tell the truth and they banned me for a week, so be quiet.

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 05:20 PM

And another thing before they ban me again: I've gotten summonsed for being less in the crosswalk, almost arrested for complaining about it.

As far as the hydrant, 15 feet is the minimum to get an enginein working a fully charged hose, as the hose arcs under pressure. I've seen where someone parked 13 feet away made it rough to work.

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Apr 17 2007 at 11:17 PM

If this site is a waste of time and losing steam why are so many cops and firemen posting messages to tell us to give up?
They know that we are building a large file of parking privledge abusers and when public opinion turns they will be held accountable.

MichaelDowd

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 02:37 AM

Why would I want to find legal parking when I have a NYPD permit and I am parking within a SEZ of another precinct? If you ask me this is one lucky bastard because he lives near a precinct thus ensuring him a parking space 24/7 365 days a year. Imagine all the money he is saving in parking and summons fees.
To bad my NYPD is not good in long Island. I have a local precinct near my house and it just doesn't work there.

anonymous

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 10:34 AM

"we are building a large file of parking privledge abusers and when public opinion turns they will be held accountable."

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaaahahahahahaaa

So you're saying that public opinion isn't with you?

You're just waiting for people to come around to your point of view so you can unleash this treasure trove of information that you're compiling?

Salguod

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 10:49 AM

#70: I have no idea who #66 is, but we are already taking far more proactive steps. And certainly in my neighborhood -- where my neighbors have been complaining about this problem for decades -- there's no question of public support.

The wheels of justice grind slowly, and just because we're not telegraphing all our moves doesn't mean we're sitting idle.

anonymous

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 11:13 AM

I've no doubt that the mods are working hard doing whatever they're doing. In fact, knowing the history of Transportation Alternatives they're probably right now preparing some glossy report for some future press conference somewhere. But contributions to the site are fizzling.

anonymous

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 01:26 PM

#73: good advice, you should take it. Therapy might help your obvious anger problem (judging from your name)

#50: if it's not blocking the crosswalk, why have I been summonsed for being less over the line?

#54: this is not a case of parked at the percinct, this is a case of free parking at home, endangering others safety in doing so.

He's not really blocking the crosswalk, but if non NYPD gets ticketed for it, then he's a violator.

AGAIN: 15 feet is the minimum for an engine to work a fully charged line, because of pressure and arcing.

Stooping to the level of the nasties here, let me explain that for the small brains: When a fire engine has to hook a hose to the faucet, the hose bends and the firemen need room to work with it. 15 feet on either side so they can get close enough to attach.

This guy is causing a serious safety hazard, no matter what the NYPD excuse makers say.

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 01:28 PM

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#73 & #68- Your Arrogance is Overwhelming. Opinions are Like A-holes, Everyone has One. Facts on the Other Hand Speak for Themselves. I'm So Glad to Hear from So many of "New Yorks Finest" Bragging About How they Break the Law Knowingly, Yep! Makes Me Happy to See how Some of My Taxes are Being Used...

JustinVolpe

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 01:46 PM

Thanks for the taxes brother. Add me to the list of bragging officers who loves the wonderful perks that the NYPD placard bathes him in. Nest thing you know you will be complaining about our free EZ pass and our free metro card.
Green is not your color. Green with envy that is.

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 02:05 PM

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Hey Justin, If You are Truly a Police Officer??? Why Choose the Screen Name of a Disgraced Cop over Someone Like Say, P.O. Edward Byrne for Example? Officer Volpe was a Perfect Example of How SOME Officers Feel that the Mighty Shield is a Free Pass to "Untouchable Status" But, Justice Prevailed. For Once I Would Like to See a Comment from a P.O. that States they Don't Abuse their SEZ or Any Laws their to Uphold.

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 03:54 PM

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Your Absolutely Right Frank. If It's a case of Odd Hours Then, Car Service is the Best Solution. At Normal Hours Public Transportation is the Right Way to Go. Millions of People Commute Daily to the City and Surrounding Boroughs for Work and are Expected to Make it on Time, Why Should those in Government be any Different?

Moderator I Have a Question. Do You Post Only Pictures of Permit Violators? What About Official Vehicles Blocking Hydrants, Crosswalks, Handicap Spaces, Curb Cut Outs, Parking on Sidewalks Etc. While NOT Responding to a Call?

petergriffin

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 04:06 PM

#74 Do you really want to know why you get summonses for little BS stuff like that? I will tell you why. From the Mayor on down, cops and traffic agents get a lot of pressure to write summonses. That is the plain truth. Summonses are a money maker for this city. There are certain cops who don't want to do police work so their job is to go and write anywhere between 40 to 60 of those BS summonses a day. They will keep on doing it as long as they don't have to do real police work like some of us do. As long as those BS summonses earn money for the city, we will always get pressure to write crap like that. That is the way the world is, sorry. Complain to city hall not us. If it was up to 80% of the real cops out there no parking summonses would be issued unless you really pissed us off!!

anonymous

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 04:10 PM

Why are so many cops bragging aboput breaking the law?

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 04:44 PM

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WEARETHEPOLICE- If I happened to See a Sector Car Parked on a Sidewalk Blocking a Handicap Ramp to Dunkin Donuts and One Officer was On Line Ordering While the Other was in the Passenger Seat Reading the Paper, I Would Say it was Safe to Assume their was No Emergency at that Time. This is Not a Joke it's the Truth for I Witnessed it First Hand.

WEARETHEPOLICE

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 04:48 PM

Well he is sitting in the passenger seat if another RMP tries to ticket the marked RMP he would move.

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 05:01 PM

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Point is Another RMP would Not Even Stop and Bother. If I on the Other Hand was in that Spot I Would Get to Hear Those Four Lovely Words "License and Registration Please", Where at the End I Would be Issued a Summons not Asked to Move (Especially if it were the End of the Month). Not to Mention There were Plenty of Available Spots in the Lot. Look I Personally Don't Dislike Police Officers, It Just Bothers Me When SOME Feel they Can do as they Please. That's All I'm Saying..

WEARETHEPOLICE

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 05:06 PM

You watch to much TV the NYPD doesn't have monthly Quotas. And most likely if you were sitting in the car you would just be asked to moved we are all not tyranical egotistical maniacs like we are portrayed on this site. Uniform cops are expected to write summons but the numbers are much lower than they used to be now that traffic agents fall under the NYPD they write the majority of parking tickets.

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 05:12 PM

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No, I Happen to Have Two Members of My Family Along with Three Close Personal Friends Who are Cops.. As Far as "we are all not tyranical egotistical maniacs like we are portrayed on this site" Just Look at the Majority of Comments Your Brothers Leave. As Far as Egotistical, Once Again You Could Have Done Without the CAPS WEARETHEPOLICE!!

WEARETHEPOLICE

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 06:14 PM

Just following your lead, "ABOVETHELAWURNOT" And this site represents maybe one half of one percent of the NYPD dont judge us all. And I'm sure alot of these comments are made by people stirring the pot.

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 07:38 PM

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Once Again, I Put My Screen Name in Caps to State to All In Government, that They are Not Above the Law. You However Have Used it to State You Feel Your Agency (NYPD)is Superior to Everyone Else and No One Should Dare Question Your (NYPD) Actions. Am I Right? If Not, Please Tell Me What You Mean By "WEARETHEPOLICE" and Why the Caps.

WEARETHEPOLICE

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 08:41 PM

Once Again I was stating FACT we are the police, that is who we are like it or not. Maybe I do think we are something special maybe I still take pride in the job me and my guys do everyday. I certainly don't think we are superior to anyone, but I do think we are different then civilians, you can have family and friends on this job listen to all their "war stories" but unless you do it yourself you will never understand the JOB. We are an easy target for everyone whether its the media or angry civilians like Frank Serpico. We take it and we keep doing our job, so like I've said before love us or hate us we are always their for you, even if it means being away from our families to help people we do not know. And yes we knew all of this before taking this job and we still took it. So no ABOVETHELAWURNOT we are not superior to you just different so I put my name in caps to stand out and try and be different, did I make my point?

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Wed, Apr 18 2007 at 08:56 PM

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Point Taken But, the Bottom Line is Laws are Laws and ALL Should Obey Them.

JustinVolpe

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 01:17 AM

The law does not apply to me as equally as you think. Say what you want but my badge gives me privileges the average citizen does not get. Since I put my life on the line for cowardly citizens on a regular basis it would only benefit myself to indulge in these luxuries and privileges.
It is what it is and there nothing anyone can do about it except cry.

bklyncop1

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 02:08 AM

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I do agree with justin BUT I wish he woulda picked another nic. It all boils down to this.... People are jealous of anyone who has any type of privilege. be it police, celebrity, politician or anyone living in Boro Park.(cops will know what I mean :-) ) as for ABOVETHELAWURNOT I doubt that if you have family and friends on the job , you would be here bashing our career. Lets say for arguments sake they are on the job, dont call them cops., being in association with a lib like youself makes them Police officers... There is a difference between a cop and a police officer... COPS WORK FOR A LIVING!!!!!!!!

petergriffin

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 03:02 AM

AMEN bklyncop1. Well said

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 11:26 AM

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#94Bklyn1cop- Believe it or not if You Wish, It Makes no Difference to Me. What Would I Have to Gain By Saying I Have Family & Friends on the Job. I am Not Here Bashing Your Career, I'm Just Voicing My Opinion and in a Lot of Cases Facts, If that Makes Me a Bleeding Heart Liberal as Far as Your Concerned, Oh Well. Listen, I Work for a Living as Well, 60 + Hours a Week Doing Construction so Nobody Tell Me About How Hard their Job Is.. Everyone Who is Decent and Supports their Family, Pays Their Taxes and Obeys the Law Should not be Labeled as a Lib Just Because they Voice Their Opinion When Certain Things Bother Them. This is About, What's Right and What's Wrong..

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 11:32 AM

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Cief Smolka- Calling Police Officers Uneducated is Unnecessary and Your Making a Generalization. Comments are Fine But, One Should Not Disrespect Another to Get a Point Across. Some of Your Points are Well Made, Don't Blow them by Making Insults Bro..

bklyncop1

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 12:31 PM

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Oh yeah, before I forget stop hating, chicks dig cops more than construction guys

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 12:50 PM

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As I Stated Earlier I'm Not Hear to Bash the Police, Just to Comment on the Abuse of Power. I'm Not Going to Even Justify Your Comments or Justin. I Know How Hard I Work and that's All that Matters. If You Feel Your Better Than Me, Then That's Your Opinion. Good Luck and Be Safe Out There.
God Bless....

BicyclesOnly

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 02:08 PM

Hey bklycop and other apparent LE, what a ridiculous pissing match you've got going. How about putting your worthy intellects to a worthy task, like responding to comment #51?

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 02:17 PM

to call us uneducated is another real insult in a long line of insults that we have been taken since this site was implemented. We could have chosen to do any other profession but most of us have wanted to be cops since we were children, and we followed that dream. I don't remember hanging out with my friends when I was a kid saying when I grow up I want to work in an office building and take three buses to work everyday. Being a Cop is a calling that not eveyone can achieve. I have met some of the most intelligent and street wise people on this job, people who I would gladly trust with my life everyday. As far as putting on life on the line everyday, you just never know whenever something really crazy happens it is never expected. You never say to yourself 3 minutes from now I'm going to chase a guy carrying a loaded gun or wrestle an EDP with a knife this job is really unpredictable. Keep knocking us in my 14 years I have learned that for the most part most civilians never really care for the Police until they need us than we become their best friend. Make all the comments you want but you will never understand this job unless you put on a vest and a gunbelt and walk a beat. Our job is not better or harder than any other persons job, its just alot different than just about any other job out their. You have actors on TV potraying what we do for a living making in one episode what it would take a real cop 2-3 years to make. Society is really screwed up and unfortunately all we see for the most part is the worst in society so we become really jaded and only trust fellow cops. Because in the end we are the only ones who understand each other. This site really brings out the worst in both sides and in the end is just widening the gap between cops and civilians.

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 03:28 PM

Those last five sentences are the smartest thing I've heard on this site since it began. Thanks.

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 03:35 PM

As a lifelong New Yorker, born and raised in Brooklyn and now living in Manhattan after a long time in Queens, I'm not worried about some cop with a starting salary of $25,000 parking two feet into a crosswalk (and the photo at the top of this thread is four blocks from my apartment).

I remember when riding the subway through Brooklyn was risking your life. I remember riots during blackouts, race riots at my old high school, and a city bus driver getting his brains blown out near my house for daring to confront a fare jumper. I remember the dark days of Dinkins when 2,200 were murdered in one year. The Thin Blue Line really is just that. Not all cops' behavior is always commendable, and some are practically criminals themselves, but I wouldn't do the important job they do, in every neighborhood in the city and 24 hours a day. (Definitely not for $500 a week before taxes!)

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 04:27 PM

#110: I understand you and I don't like what I see. I think you can't see what you really are.

I ran the calls for 20 years, unarmed and sometimes faster than you, so as far as that beat thing, been there done that with out a gun and vest.

Imagine my horror to show up before you and have you join forces with the bad guy against me. Or you don't show up at all and I have to handle the job, unequiped except for the knowledge of what's supposed to happen.

You're right about your job being different and that's why they had the 48 hour rule, legal protection for you because of the nature of your job.

Too bad so many that are corrupt abused it and got it taken away

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 04:27 PM

#110: I understand you and I don't like what I see. I think you can't see what you really are.

I ran the calls for 20 years, unarmed and sometimes faster than you, so as far as that beat thing, been there done that with out a gun and vest.

Imagine my horror to show up before you and have you join forces with the bad guy against me. Or you don't show up at all and I have to handle the job, unequiped except for the knowledge of what's supposed to happen.

You're right about your job being different and that's why they had the 48 hour rule, legal protection for you because of the nature of your job.

Too bad so many that are corrupt abused it and got it taken away

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Apr 19 2007 at 05:04 PM

114 What the Hell are you talking about?? What kind of job did you do? And if not on my JOB you really have no idea. This site has gotten so far off the Topic could not agree more with # 110

FHH

Posted on Fri, Apr 20 2007 at 09:52 AM

Why do I have a feeling 114 was a Guardian Angel who feels he did the "real" job?????

petergriffin

Posted on Fri, Apr 20 2007 at 02:33 PM

How come 119 posts get cut down to 68? People love freedom of speech until someone says things that they don't like to hear. Keep the posts up. Let people on both sides air out the problems. Maybe in all this insanity somewhat of a resolution will come from this. Maybe Cops will understand some people a little better and next time think when they park their car, and people might understand a little of what we (cops) go through and stop bitching about some of the small crap that seems to drive people crazy. Stop taking peoples posts off and let people vent!!!

ABOVETHELAWURNOT

Posted on Fri, Apr 20 2007 at 05:20 PM

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I Guess Certain Posts Have to be Deleted Because Alot of Commenters (Mostly Anonymous Ones) Use Negativity in their Comments Instead of Facts or Respectful Opinions. Personally I Can Speak for Myself and Say I Think the Guardian Angels(Especially in the 80's) Were an Asset to this City and they Made People Feel a little Bit Safer in a City with So Much Going On.

Salguod

Posted on Fri, Apr 20 2007 at 07:40 PM

#120 -- if we deleted posts based on content, we'd delete this most recent one of yours, since it's irritating and wrong. Why didn't we delete it? Because you managed to not make any ad hominem attacks on anyone. NOte that we delete "donut eater" comments as much as "latte sipper" comments.

anonymous

Posted on Sun, Apr 22 2007 at 04:01 PM

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CROSSWALKviolator

Posted on Sun, Apr 22 2007 at 04:10 PM

I will never move my car. No one has the authority to make me move it. God bless the NYPD.

BicyclesOnly

Posted on Sun, Apr 22 2007 at 04:22 PM

Hey moderators, Mr. CROSSWALKviolator, by purporting to be the own of this car on this post and another subsequent post, has taken things to the next level. I know you've got limited resources, but I am in favor of moving his violations up in the queue.

CROSSWALKviolator

Posted on Sun, Apr 22 2007 at 05:48 PM

Steve, thanks for making me laugh. I am so sure that nothing will come of this that I have exposed myself. What do you think will happen to me? Will my pension be taken away from me? NOPE! Will I get a command discipline from my supervisor? NOPE!(i'm retired remember). Will I get a summons? GOOD HEAVENS NO!(I am admired by the 2-4 cops) What on earth could possibly happen to me my dear Steve? I await your answer with baited breath.

BicyclesOnly

Posted on Sun, Apr 22 2007 at 06:51 PM

We'll just have to see, violator. Hang in there.

CROSSWALKviolator

Posted on Sun, Apr 22 2007 at 07:16 PM

No, problem Stevie.
I am home most of the day running my home business so anytime you want to drop on by and ask me to move my car just have one of your news friends run my plate and come knock on my door. Please do not be disappointed if I refuse to move it though.

FHH

Posted on Sun, Apr 22 2007 at 10:57 PM

"Personally I Can Speak for Myself and Say I Think the Guardian Angels(Especially in the 80's) Were an Asset to this City and they Made People Feel a little Bit Safer in a City with So Much Going On."

WOW, I bet those bedtime stories helped you feel secure, too. The Guardian Angels did nothing but walk around in berets as a group with no knowledge of the law. They would go, as a group, to someone on the street & just search them. When they came across a group large enough to step up to them they had to call the POLICE to bail them out. They made a big deal of how they were going to clean up Times Square, as soon as they tried they got beat down on a regular basis. They had to turn tail & abandon the idea until they got the Restaurant owners & media behind them. They wasted so many man-hours of the Police Department, there is no way that they were an asset........

Much like the subject at hand, you take too much of your information from the media. The media claims to be about "giving the public the truth". What they are REALLY about is selling papers, getting viewers & getting listeners. The way to do that is to sensationalize things. Come to think of it, this site is supposed to be about the "truth" yet close to half the posts have been deleted. Why is that? Because the posters disagree with the whining going on here? The note in the Leave a Comment section says "Any threatening or obscene comments will be removed immediately." You don't really expect anybody to believe that HALF the posts were threatening or obscene, do you? Unless, of course, the definition you're using of obscene is "disagrees with our point of view".......

anonymous

Posted on Mon, Apr 23 2007 at 12:14 PM

First of all, that car is not parked in a crosswalk. That line you see is the STOP line for the traffic signal at that intersection. Also, if you were a little more observant you would see that the walkway for entering the sidewalk starts a few feet in front of that car, so technically, it's not blocking anyone's path. Listen, we know you don't respect authority; we know you will jump at the chance to criticize Cops; however, we also know that when you get bullied and your wallet gets taken, or your face gets broken, by some "scary New York thug" , you will call 9-11, cry into the phone, and be soooo happy when the Cops arrive.
Get over yourself. You are not spearheading world changing events.

FHH

Posted on Mon, Apr 23 2007 at 12:31 PM

"next is the free cop of coffee,next not placing ALL the cash in property clerk evidence bag,exscuse??? I was at 9-11 PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK!!!you people are playing the same tired song for wrong doing like that A-Hole in the white house who lied us into IRAQ."

Your comments about the coffee & money are based on what? Oh that's right - typical, "I don't like them so whatever I say bad about them has to be true" logic. Save it. It amazes me how you can twist any & every topic around to the usual "Blame Bush" rhetoric. That's MUCH more of a tired song. You were at 9/11 & have the nerve to say that all the heroes are dead? You've really got some anger issues you need to work on, tell the therapist it's time to move on from Mommy & Daddy issues, you have new stuff to talk about.....

bklyncop1

Posted on Mon, Apr 23 2007 at 01:46 PM

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"not placing ALL the cash in property clerk evidence bag" this goes back to what I said over and over again... Thats a crime... Parking is not...its a violation... There is a difference in stealing and parking where ever we want (0 feet hydrant, Handicap, middle of bus stop no good) Stop being jealous to the privlages we have and stop throwing 9-11 in to the mix... that is not the reason we park where we feel like it... even before 9-11 cops parked every where... get over this agenda of cop bashing... most parking tickets are issued by traffic agents not cops, even though we wear the same patch (kind of).... they have to write tickets...its the job they signed to do....

CROSSWALKviolator

Posted on Tue, Apr 24 2007 at 05:44 PM

La da deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. La da doooooooooooooooooooooooooo, i have no intentions of moving my car. Thank you my brothers at the 2-4 for the great support.

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