This is TOTALLY unacceptable. SEZ or not, it's causing a safety hazard! No EXCUSE will be accepted!!!!!!!!

I think they should build a parking garage smack in the middle of Metrotech. This garage can be used by the FDNY who have their HQ at 9 Metro and the police officers who are attending court, preparing for trial, and working at the communications center. Officers assigned to the 84 would also benefit from indoor parking. Parking could also be provided for the emergency operators and dispatchers seeing as how their garage is too small.

Big J

If you build a garage for Cops and Firemen the public will say how come they get to park and we cant. No matter what happens you will never make the public happy. So keep the status quo. ABOVE is anything acceptable to you?? I mean short of the NYPD packing it in and giving the animals freee reign of the city.

Even if this site is getting boring (which it is not), parking in a crosswalk is a safety hazard regardless of who does it. Placard parking here in Downtown Brooklyn is frustrating because it creates unnecessary traffic, excessive safety hazards as this site documents, and an unwelcoming place to live and work.

Too many cars creates unnecessary traffic

Retrogizmo, you say "Placard parking here in Downtown Brooklyn is frustrating because it creates... an unwelcoming place to live and work."

I have the solution for you: Move. Leave NYC. If you don't like the fact that it's crowded, and people and cars are on top of each other, I'll pay for your moving expenses to get out! You will not be missed.

#8 Such a tired response to people who want to change things for the better - "move!" You'd probably say the same thing to Thomas Jefferson, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Jesus Christ. Oh but wait, they were all "latte-drinking whiney liberals", right?

Abovethelaw, you said "This is TOTALLY unacceptable. SEZ or not, it's causing a safety hazard! No EXCUSE will be accepted!!!!!!!!"

Why is this a safety hazard? If a wheelchair needed the ramp, they could easily use the other ramp (facing the other direction), go down that, and turn to head back this way. Most corners in this city have two curb cuts.

This morning, at 7:15, I parked my police car exactly this same way after circling the precinct block 2 times. I had to get into the house to input a GLA (which must have the alarm transmitted within 1 hour of taking the report). I didn't have time to mess around and keep circling the block, or to wait for daytour which would take the car from my hands after 7:30 (on most days, I just show up once daytour has turned out, and this solves the parking problem... Couldn't do that today).

So, I parked it in a crosswalk and it sat there for 15 minutes, till daytour went and took it. (Which they did.)

Was this wrong? What is the current solution? (Building a parking lot would be great, but that would not solve the problem right now.) How else do we fix this in a crowded city?

(Oh, and I'll probably get a complaint for it, because some guy complained as I was going it and took down the car number. And while a complaint from a civilian is bad, it is still not as bad at the punishment for not getting a GLA in on time. They are really cracking down on paperwork issues at my command. Sucks that I'm damned if I do, dammed if I don't.)

#9 I'm pretty sure Jesus didn't drink Latte's.

And I'm not saying don't make things better. But unfortunatly, NYC is not magically gonna get more land one day. This city is overcrowded, and will continue to be. If you don't like it, the only solution is to leave.

#11 "The only solution is to leave"? Really?

#12, either that, or pray for a volcano to open up in the Atlantic and dump a whole bunch of new land down.

I can't believe what I just read...It comes down to this...Active police officers who are keeping/making Brooklyn a safe place to live are actually making Brooklyn an unwelcoming place to live.

Next time you're sitting in your new condo in "Prospect Heights" you should spend some time researching the crack wars that raged in NYC. You should research the crime rates of today compared with the crime rates of the last decades. You'll see how much hard work these cops have done.

Big J

#9

How in the hell can you compare anything on this site; posts, comments, etc, to what the likes of Thomas Jefferson, MLK and Jesus did? So what you are saying is that the parking problems within NYC equates to what those men faught for.

Some people are really streching things. It is parking problems people, there are some abuses yes, but in the grand views of things that are going on in this city, it is basically a spec of dust on your shoes. Take all this time and effort that you people obviously have and go volunteer at a planned parenthood, PAL, or one of the other many good civic organizations that help people who truly need help. I would imagine that the reason you don't is because you are scared to even go into those neighborhoods!!!

I parked there once before and I too used my placard to ensure that I wasn't summonsed. It is just a fact of life that cops and traffic agents give each other courtesy. Courtesy and discretion will never be eliminated so for the cry babies of this site, please get used to that notion before you drown in your own tears of dissatisfaction.

Actually #4, I think #3's idea is a pretty good one, and I'm not a cop, I'm "the public." Let's face it, cops are not going to "pack it in." There will always be police in NYC. Cops in NYC have indeed done a good job fighting drugs and other crime #14, but cops haven't done it alone, and they're not martyrs for doing it, because fighting crime is their JOB.

I've parked in that very spot if I am not mistaken with my placard. I believe it is the last space on the block between Tech Pl and Myrtle right in front of that barrier at the front of the bus stop. True, buses are forced to then block the only lane of traffic going in that direction, which does cause a traffic issue, but i've never seen it so bad that it took more than 4 minutes to get through. This block is crazy with courthouses at 320 and 330 Jay Street, and the Brooklyn DA at 350 Jay. That's not even mentioning the entrance to Metrotech in the middle of the block and the NYPD Comm. Div. which is on Tech Pl. Most cars who park on this block are Court Officers, NYPD Comm., FD Active Firefighter, and Police District Attorney plaques. That's not to mention the official MTA Transit vehicles that sometimes park here. It is NOT just NYPD but everyone. You are not going to ticket anyone on the block because if they are there then they are on OFFICIAL BUSINESS. Leave these guys alone. Sometimes this block is so clogged that I have to circle just to even park on Jay St. with my plaque. So it's not just this one car and NO ONE should get a ticket for it.

Also there is no SEZ for an unrestricted NYPD plaque #1. And the SEZ for restricted is not enforced. It is not fair to these officers who have to go to the DA's office on official business or whatever else to have to look for parking. A lot of them do it off the clock and shouldn't have to look for parking.

Also if you are observant, you can see the orange EZ-Pass which means he or she deserves the unrestricted and the EZ pass and should be left alone.

The comments here are ridiculous. The point of this site is to document the abuse of illegal placard parking, not to start ad hominem attacks. It is frustrating because if you work or live in a community with great transportation and there are cars illegally parked in every available open space, who can you turn to complain to? Who am I going to call about cops illegally parked--NYPD?

Additionally, illegal placard parking encourages excessive driving here because there is no cost to parking, and virtually no barrier to getting the best possible seat in the house however illegal it is. Downtown Brooklyn is like a funnel for traffic as it is because of the proximity to the bridges, don't make it worse by illegally parking here. And it does create blight--just look at 370 Jay Street a neglected building with Jersey barriers and illegally parked cars.

retogizmo, it is apparent that there are a number of pseudo-LE types (or LE with desk jobs or former LE) who are spending hours daily monitoring this site, constantly airing puerile ad hominen attacks, anonymous bravado about how much they get away with, mindless assertions that nothing can change, pompous advice to "get a life" when they obviously have none, etc. It's not clear how many there are, because most post anonymously. There is no way to deal rationally with them. Do what I do; look for comments that contain some shadow of a rational thought, and respond to those.

My two cents says crosswalk parking is wrong and dangerous, it pushes pedestrians, including little kids and old people, into the flow of traffic. #10 says he does this because he has to, wheelchair users should just detour out into traffic, and there is no immediate solution, so there is no solution. WillNYC comments that "everybody does it, so why complain?" I am sure that many placard users in this area are 9-to-5ers who could take the train or bus (or pay for a garage if they want) but are just living it up off the TEA no-hit policy. And how many of the placard parkers in this area have fraudulent placards? Get those people out of their cars or into legal spaces and there would be a lot more room for vehicles on "official business." If there still isn't enough room, then convert more curbside parking to "official business" parking.

It's so simple. The admins and posters on this site are trying to create a rational system so that there is adequate free parking for those who really need it, so that no one would feel compelled to park in a crosswalk like #10 does. But almost everyone with a placard who comments here seems to feel invested in protecting the 9-to-5ers and the fraudulent placard users, apparently because they want the ability to abuse their own placard (such as when off duty).

Steve, Why can't LE monitor this site? You act jelouse that we too can read and reply to it!

You say "wheelchair users should just detour out into traffic". Umm, crossing the street by the nature of the action PUTS YOU OUT INTO TRAFFIC. Just because I said use the other ramp does not make it any more dangerous. Especially if you use the walk and don't walk signs for help (even though most pedestrians don't).

You also said: "#10 says he does this because... there is no immediate solution, so there is no solution." That is not what I said. I said that TODAY (a specific instance) there was no other solution. So, was todays parking ok? Or what else should I have done?

You go on to say: "no one would [should] feel compelled to park in a crosswalk like #10 does." I was not COMPELLED to park there. I wasn't draw, magnatized, happy, or anything else to park there either. I parked there because it was the only available "space" and I had to. If other more legal space had been available, I would have used that. Unfortunatly, it was not.

-Number Ten

Steve,
My argument is not that "everybody does it so it's okay." My argument is that there just isn't a solution to the problem. There is literally no parking anywhere in the entire neighborhood so sometimes police have to park there. It seems to have become quite a problem on Jay Street particularly, though, I'll admit. If someone adds money to the budget for an underground parking garage for all of these placard-holders, you can bet that I'll park there. Perhaps the 84 should just start towing vehicles on Jay Street regardless of placard status. Make Jay Street a "No Permit Zone" even for vehicles with NYPD placards and even department vehicles. However, you then have to make other spots "No Standing Except Authorized". If this means removing the meters on Jay between Tillary and Tech Pl. and making it a No Standing then the public is going to be upset. Additionally, there are more meters on that Adams street service road where you can turn right on to Tillary. Let's just remove those, too, and make them No Standing Except Police Vehicles. The fact of the matter is that many of these vehicles are department vehicles or city vehicles and have to go from place to place all-day. I think that if we just provide parking in other areas of the neighborhoods and remove the meters, you can probably alleviate the congestion in that bus stop on Jay and Myrtle.

#30 You say "#10 was on the job breaking the rules and doesn't give an apology, just the usual baloney excuses."

First, why should I apologize? The city should provide at the very LEAST parking for marked police cars. I did what I needed to do to get the job (input the GLA) done.

Maybe the civilians who hog spots on the precinct block (clearly marked for police vehichles only) should apologize. As pointed out on here before, SEZ is more like NEZ (No Enforcement Zone). Everyone "wins" because no tickets get written in these areas.

Also, I didn't give "baloney excuses", I explained the situation and asked for a solution.

-Number Ten

#30 and #31 even thou you had to write it twice. Read what #10 was doing you idiot. The 2 stealing drugs has nothing to do with parking. I get to park where I want to park, but I do it while I'm on the clock. You all should be complaining about the ones who park illegally while they are home.

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The last thing the mayor is going to due aty this point is take away parking for the NYPD.........Maybe after they settle a contract you might get a responce, try back then

#10/26: LE can monitor the site and are welcome to offer any rational commentary they like. But there's nothing wrong with me pointing out that a number of the anonymous apparent LE commenters who are telling me to "get a life" are demonstrably spending far more time monitoring this site than I spend on it (based on the timing of their posts), don't appear to be cops out policing the streets with legitimate claims to special parking accomodations, and therefore (IMHO) have no credibility.

So tell me, yes or no, do you agree that the placards of 9-to-5ers should be taken away so that people required by their public job to either (a) visit multiple locations in the personally owned vehicle or (b) work irregular late night overtime can have curbside parking when the need it? (Same question to WillNYC). I would sooner take away the placards of the 9-to-5ers before converting the small amount of metered parking that helps local businesses in this neighborhood, would you?

#29, I have no need or desire to park there. Take your fantasy somewhere else.

#32, I have put up posts on this site demonstrating that cops sometimes parking their personally owned vehicles in spots marked for "NYCPD Owned Vehicles" only, forcing the RMPs to park in the bus stops and the crosswalks. Here's an example: http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/605. So NYPD is diminishing response time with the parking of their own personal vehicles and it should be stopped.

To the extent local residents parking in NYPD only zones, they should be ticketed and towed. Any cop who thinks he is fostering good community relations by letting the local residents park in the "NYPD-only" curbside spots and then blocking the sidewalk with his own car (and there have been comments along these lines on this site) is just living out a power trip by giving out illegal favors to himself and others.

WOW.

Steve. Get a life.

Steve, Here we go. You say "LE commenters who are telling me to "get a life" are demonstrably spending far more time monitoring this site than I spend on it". Umm, it is not one LE commenter. It is many, who have the same oppinion. That is why it seems like the same guy is on here 24/7 telling you to "get a life". Its not, it is multiple people.

You go on to say "So tell me, yes or no, do you agree that the placards of 9-to-5ers should be taken away? I would sooner...[do that then convert] the small amount of metered parking that helps local businesses in this neighborhood, would you?"

No, I do not agree. I am not in the possition to dictate how a grown adult chooses to get to work. If they choose to drive, 9-5, then that is their choice. Do I think they need to drive? No. But should they be allowed to? Yes. You guys started this campaign, and as the very first few comenters pointed out, the solution is to take even more spots (meters, etc) away from the public, and re-sign the zones. Then cops would be in their respective zones, and everything will be legit.

Lastly, you say "Any cop who thinks he is fostering good community relations by letting the local residents park in the "NYPD-only" curbside spots... is just... giving out illegal favors to himself and others."

Are you kidding me? This order of not bothering ANYONE on the block comes from the Captain of the comand. Many of the residents around the precinct are politically connected, and rather then fight with them, they let everyone do what they need. If you think it has anything to do with the foot cops, you are wrong.

Oh, I forgot to add, the above post, #39, is from:

-Number Ten/Twenty Six

Steve you're wrong. Oh, and get a life.

Does anyone else photocopy their permit for their family? I was always told that this could get you in some serious shit.

Just as we complain about personal car parking, we absolutely complain just as much if the marked cars CAN'T park. No arguement there. If it was there 15 mins and your personal car was respectfully parked, I might stand by at that location and watch your car in case any wheelchairs needed help.

But you know that's not the case. I'm waiting to hit the trifecta of pictures at the local stationhouse: Double parked on a very busy street with one up on the sidewalk, all in the crosswalk.

Make that 3 personal cars in that crosswalk

To make is clear:

TA has one and only one issue: to force, if possible, every New Yorker to take mass transit at all times with the exception of certain liberals, who have the need for limousines because they have emergency meetings with disenfranchised communities throughout the city. The other option is for every New Yorker to ride a bike all the time. Almost everyone in TA is the type of person who is extremely "cosmopolitan" and therefore *must* live in NYC to keep it real and have street cred, and would never dream of moving away, but who simply cannot afford a car here because their activism work yields a very modest living. They are not for personal choice in any way; they are for a command economy.

Because police officers *are* the law, and because TA is anti-establishment at its core, cops make the most obvious targets for their screeds. There is so much going on here: jealousy, hatred of authority, hatred of the libertarian ethic, hatred of captialism and the free market, and hatred of earned privelege. This site has made it clear it is not just about exposing genuine abuses of parking. It is a vent for their hatred of the police and all that enforcing the law with both your hands and your pen stands for.

BTW: kudos to Bloomberg for moving the taxi fleet to hybrid by 2012.

I am going to start a site, www.uncivilbikers.org, which will expose the thousands of TA members who make our streets a dangerous hellhole every day by passing steady red lights on their bicycles. I am all for bike riding as a pastime or for transportation, but all for obeying the law and public safety is my first concern. I bet that many bike fatalities and accidents are due to bikers who violate the traffic law, whereas I have yet to learn of how a parked police car has hurt anyone. The danagers of these parked cars are hypotheticals (never mind this parking meter issue), but outlaw bicyclists cause blood to spill on the street every single day. Since my priorities accord with the greatest dangers first, I will demand that the city enforce these traffic violations by bikers to keep us all safe; I have children and somebody's got the protect them from these maniacs! Please, officers on this site, I urge you to cite bikers who pass red lights. This lawlessness has got to stop!

#39: I don't care if its one or 1,000 people telling me to "get a life," the commenters who use this a tired old cliche reveal through their own comments that their idea of "a life" is to insult people rather than engage in rational dialogue. No credibility (for example, see #41).

The point is not whether publicly employed 9-to-5ers are permitted to "choose" to drive to work; the point is, should we encourage them to do so by letting them park for free in scarce curbside spaces that should be set aside for publicly employees who are required to (1) use their personal vehicles for work or (2) face unpredictable late-night overtime. To take away all the metered spaces so that 9-to-5ers can enjoy the trademark perk of public employment--free, illegal curbside parking--makes no sense and you know it. However I agree that if, after the 9-to-5ers placards are taken away, there is still insufficinet space for those with a legitimate need, then convert the metered spaces, reimburse the cost of a taxi/livery home for OT workers, or come up with some other reasonable parking accomodation.

As for the Captains telling cops not to bother anyone on the block, its news to me. However my comment stands; it just applies to the Captains (to the extent what you claim is true) rather than the subordinates. All the more reason why this site is necessary. Tell me, what other laws are residents on blocks with precinct houses allowed to break in order to buy their silence concerning NYPD abuses?

#46, your comments are bursting with ignorance on their face. What is your basis for hyperbole like: "Almost everyone in TA is the type of person that . . ."; "TA has one and only one issue . . ."; "they are not for personal choice in any way . . ."? Your kudos for Bloomberg at the ends reads like a pathetic bid for credibility based on your "balanced" view of environmental issues. The notion that the right to drive and park illegally with a placard issued by government is a "libertarian" issue is laughable.

I agree with you that there are a few commenters on this site who are cop-haters, but you can't denay there are more than a few commenters who are bicyclists-haters. But the purpose of the site ti sot reform the placard abuse system. It's only commenters like you who are trying to draw it off-topic.

#46, go start your site. I'd love to see you try to support your ridiculous claim that "outlaw bicyclists cause blood to spill on the street every single day" with evidence of any kind.

WillNYC,
You say that it's okay to illegally park here even though- " . . buses are forced to then block the only lane of traffic going in that direction, which does cause a traffic issue, but i've never seen it so bad that it took more than 4 minutes to get through."

So its okay to inconvenience every single person that must drive down that street, including buses full of people for 4 minutes, for your own convenience? Not to mention inconveniencing every person that must go around your car to cross the street. You realize how incredibly selfish that is right? Illegally park where you don't cause traffic jams.

"#46, go start your site. I'd love to see you try to support your ridiculous claim that "outlaw bicyclists cause blood to spill on the street every single day" with evidence of any kind."

This is a ground ball. There have been zero documented cases of parked police or cop-owned cars causing an accident or incident that has hurt a citizen in any way whatsoever. Meanwhile, hundreds of accidents a year involve bicycles and injury to either the bicyclist, another party, or both. Now I don't know how many of these are the fault of the bicyclist, but it is certainly greater than zero percent. I am also certain the riders in at least several of these cases were breaking the traffic law.

I therefore conclude with complete certainty that any person who cares about the safety of New Yorkers should stop wasting another second on this site, and immediately demand enforcement against the renege bicyclists that TA supports. Justice demands no less of us.

Steve, you're a dick. Get a life.

Just follow those idiots(Critical No Jobs Mass) on Friday nights and see what this site supports ............

Next time this city and country is attacked ,i hope they start a website to help victims and rescue workers and the military .....But have a feeling that would be to much to ask of the people on this site and Ta

All we are asking for is Courtesy, Professionalism and Respect..

Steve, you said "Tell me, what other laws are residents on blocks with precinct houses allowed to break in order to buy their silence concerning NYPD abuses?"

Oh, you didn't know? They are allowed to rape, kill, and steal as much as they want to also. Oh, but they still can't smoke indoors.

#45: You didn't make anything clear. Your post is so stupid, I wouldn't know where to begin to insult you back. But try this on for size: If anyone has earned the privelege it's FDNY, not NYPD.

#46: What makes you think those road warriors are TA people? I hate those types of riders and I ride myself. In fact I handled a head on collision up on the bridge recently because I knew what to do and they didn't want the police. It was 2 girls, one hefty, one scrawny, both riding bikes weighing as much as a beer can, so they really fly.

#49: I'm not a cop hater by trade, but I am against what's wrong whether it's asshole bikers, or city workers abusing the position. While there's plenty of bike trouble daily, cop cars and cops' cars cause problem. You just don't get to hear about it for some strange reason. Like the time the RMP was in a collision that bent the bumper, but it was a passing unit that called the 10-85, not the car in the crash.

Funny because it left the scene and went to the precinct so fast, that by the time the Hiway guy showed up to do the report 15 minutes after the accident, he couldn't and seemed pissed at what was going on. Hard to do AI with a leaving the scene and it's an RMP.

#50: You're a dick! Get a life!

#51: And your point is?

#52: WTF are you talking about? And I thought I got off topic

#55: You laugh but I always did wonder about that. Is it better or worse to live on the block of the stationhouse?

#56 You say "Hard to do AI with a leaving the scene and it's an RMP."

Umm, First of all I have NO IDEA what accident you are talking about, is this a known case, or some random fender bender you witnessed? However, unless there were injuries, it is not leaving the scene if you leave your information (be it a civilian or a cop).

#57, yeah, sorry, I just had to make a joke about it. Sometimes Steve just comes off like a paranoid nut. Seems like everyone but him gets some kind of mysterious "parking perk" be it either by using plaques, or even just living on the block of a precinct.

I would say living on a precinct block is both good and bad. I would imagine it's pretty safe as far as crime. Also, you probably get a pretty fast responce time if something did happen. Parking as pointed out is not enforced very hard. But, there is noise day and night, and I imagine traffic can be heavy a times, esp around tour change.

How can this be on Jay and Mrtyle? Mrtyle Ave. ends a few blocks east at Flatbush Avenue!

#48: On duty marked RMP that blew the light, hit a civillian car, didn't call it in and removed the RMP while Highway was on the way to investigate.

The Highway guy was mad the RMP was moved before he got there 10 mins after the call.

Pure corruption and everybody should have been arrested, including Highway for not saying anything. That is why the system is totally corrupt.

Highway would side with criminals rather than report them.

To all you complainers out there about the NYPD parking where ever they want to. Read the Post.Date May 30 Page 5 and you wonder why you are all getting tickets. Where I live in Brooklyn we have a precinct in the area and nobody complains about how they park. If you went by there you can't even walk on that side of the street, But guess what. We don't complain about it and we are the least ticket area in Brooklyn. So keep on complaining.

#50 Jay St and Myrtle Ave meet

And what? You think that has something to do with it? It's about the benjamans babay

#67 that's not true, Myrtle Ave. runs east all the way to Queens....Stop the madness...