District Attorney Parking On Sidewalk

Observed by efficient streets on Tue, Feb 13 2007

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anonymous

Posted on Thu, Mar 15 2007 at 04:54 PM

All across this city parking is becoming more scarce everyday. In a neighborhood like Park Slope there simply is NOT enough spaces for the amount of resident's cars.

As a courtesy offered to our residents by the NYPD we allow double parking during the Alternate Side Parking for street cleaning that takes place four days a week.

Can you imagine if all the residential vehicles in Park Slope and many other neighborhoods that were safely double parked for the short time started to get ticketed?

I assure you, if you start this war, you will lose. There might not be any winner, but the residents will be ticketed for hundreds of thousands of dollars every alternate side parking day.

Actually, I'm looking forward to the battle. When hundreds of hard working residents are looking for blood, they will find it at 127 W. 26th Street and it will not be pretty.

There is NO LAW, NO EXEMPTION, NO LEGALITY for double parking. It is purely a COURTESY which we can retract instantly.

Thank you.

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Mar 15 2007 at 07:20 PM

"There is NO LAW, NO EXEMPTION, NO LEGALITY for double parking. It is purely a COURTESY which we can retract instantly."

nope.. you will do what your boss tells you to do. if you decide to take retribution action yourself on the residents of park slope , you can say bye to your pension.

efficient streets

Posted on Thu, Mar 15 2007 at 11:22 PM

Hey posters, if we're being honst with ourselves, all illegal parking should be ticketed.

BicyclesOnly

Posted on Thu, Mar 15 2007 at 11:32 PM

How grandiose, #1. Trying to intimidate the users of this site by asserting that you can control whole neighborhoods of people by threatening to enforce the law against them. Why don't you just go out and enforce the law for a proper, lawful reason, for example, because it's your job to do so. And while you're at it, please obey the law, too. You are not above it and you don't own it.

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 08:30 AM

It's about needing to have a cause - but not one that will cause too much anxiety or contemplation to one's self, not one that would bring about any out-of-pocket expense (Birkenstocks are costly, ya know...,) not one which actually HELPS any one in any way, shape or form.

It is terribly obvious that any active member/supporter of this site or Transportation Alternatives has a drive to change the community in some way. In light of the recent headlines - why not join the NYPD Auxiliary Police force? They need some new members.

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 09:40 AM

Hello, it's #1 again.

No, I will not lose my pension. In fact, over the years, on different occasions, there have been some of the ugly people in Park Slope at the Commanding Officer's door, with photos in hand, complain of the "horrendous" parking conditions around our station house.

The initial reaction is always threatening disciplinary action against the terrible cops. When the alternate side parking, double parking is casually mentioned, there is immediate withdrawal of the so-called threats. The last thing a C. O. needs is a line of ugly Park Slopers at his door waving hundred dollar tickets in his face.

It is not a right of the privileged Sloper to violate the Vehicle and Traffic Laws when it's good for them.

I foresee a drastic change in courtesy offered to our communities in the near future.

And yes, I believe we CAN control whole neighborhoods. Wait until you have to sit in your car for an hour and a half because there is no LEGAL parking space to be found within 1 mile of your comfy brownstone.

You cannot win. Trust me. A cop cannot be disciplined for doing his job legally. Been there, done that.

Good luck.

Greg

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 09:52 AM

The photos above are not a cop doing his job legally. Those are personal vehicles parked illegally on sidewalks putting pedestrian tax payers in harms way.

I am seriously confused as to what the argument is here? This site seems to be about documenting people breaking the law. I see nowhere that it is coming down on the NYPD legally parked, or emergency vehicles parked anywhere.

Are you suggesting that the law currently and explicitly allows what is happening in the above photo?

I also don't see what this has to do w/ Park Slope. Perhaps I am missing something, but it seems the vast majority of posts on this site are nowhere near Park Slope??

Perhaps I am missing something?

efficient streets

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 10:31 AM

The permit on the vehicle in this post belongs to the District Attorney's office. How has this been conflated into an NYPD issue? Wouldn't a DA clearly understand existing Vehicle and Traffic Law, which prohibits parking on sidewalks?

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 10:50 AM

What is so hard to understand? The civil servants in NYC work hard serving the people of NYC. Transportation Alternatives works hard promoting their unrealistic agenda that we should all ride bicycles everyday to wherever we have to go. They obviously have nothing better to do the 1st Friday of every month.

They succeeded in reducing the hours for Prospect Park's traffic and with that crime has gone up. They do not care. It doesn't support their twisted agenda. The park is now perfectly vacant most of the time for predators to lurk and pounce without the fear that there might be someone in a passing vehicle to put an end to their evil ways.

Now they're encouraging people to photograph AND post pictures of mostly city employees' cars "illegally" parked. I bring up Park Slope because I have 1st hand knowledge of that situation. I assure you, this is happening everywhere. Double parking is illegal. Absolutely a violation that comes with a hefty fine. Where are those pictures? I bet on any given day there are thousands of cars double parked in every borough. Shall I start taking pictures? I will if this nonsense doesn't stop. But I'm sure these sorry T.A. web masters will not post my pictures. Again, it doesn't fit their agenda.

Are these double parkers not inconveniencing their neighbors? All that is asked of them are to place a phone number or address on their dashboard so that if the car that they're blocking has to move, they can be contacted. Look around and see how many violators actually do this. How many people get stuck everyday, blocked in and miss meetings, work or doctor's appointments.

So where am I going with this? It's a big city. Many people, many cars and not enough spaces. We all have to co-exist. Leave well enough alone or nobody wins. Enough said.

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 10:58 AM

I just read this site's "rules" on what is legal and what is illegal. Nowhere did I see when or where it is legal to double park. Isn't that something?

Maybe with every double parking ticket issued, a Transportation Alternatives flyer should be attached to the summonse. Maybe after thousands of complaints from their own people, they will get the message.

Maybe.

Greg

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 11:21 AM

By all means ticket people that double park. I don't think anyone here is asking you to look the other way when people break the law. What people are asking is that you hold yourself to that same law. These are private vehicles parked illegally. Yet, they are not ticketed. If your hated Park Sloper parked on the sidewalk like that, would you look the other way? Nope, I imagine you would ticket them.

Seriously. I honestly would love to see the NYPD crack down on illegal parking for permit holders as well as for non-permit holders.

As to Prospect Park. If you seriously think that there should be cars driving through a public park, which is designed to be a place for children to play ... I don't really know how to respond. Only in NYC would people think that cars should drive through the middle of a park.

Also, I am routinely in the park after dark cycling, and I have yet to be raped, mugged, etc. What does happen though is some driver will come flying down the street going 45 mph and running the red lights. I think I will take my chance w/ these muggers.

efficient streets

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 11:55 AM

#10,
I don't know why you put "rules" in quotation marks. The rules as explained in the site are NY State Vehicle and Traffic Laws and NYC DOT, Finance, and PD regs as they apply to permits.

It's always illegal to double park, no matter who's doing it--didn't think that needed explication. And according to a certain Chief, those are precisely the "quality citations" that are looked for. The pamphlet that explains the laws is from the NYC Department of Transportation, which they used to supply to their PCU officers before the last of them were folded into PD. I would assume the PD has a similar pamphlet.

efficient streets

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 11:57 AM

#9
You're welcome to post pictures of double parking. That should be enforced everywhere, a point stressed vigorously in TrafficStat meetings every week.

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 01:00 PM

The permit issued by the KCDA is for their detectives, not necessarily attorneys. Although NYPD is the largest police force in the city, there are over a dozen city, state and federal police agencies maintaining the safety and security of the people of the city of New York. In order for all police officers to perform their jobs they must first be able to get to them. The overzealous photographers of illegally parked cars might first like to thank the police for keeping them safe enough to take the pictures without some thug trying to steal their camera. Secondly, how many of these photographers and web masters were injured protecting strangers this week. I know of two auxilary police officers in Manhattan and one police officer in Brooklyn who probably parked their cars thinking they would be back to move them at the end of their tour. Think about that next time you see any police parking placard on the dashboard of a vehicle you want to photograph.

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 01:31 PM

Bravo #14!!!! Well said!

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 16 2007 at 01:53 PM

I second that, Bravo #14!!

This parking "issue" is something that just comes with the territory of a city. You're never going to change it.
NEVER!

And please listen to #14, this sight appears to be targeting the people that continue to keep this city running. Don't bite the hand that feeds you!!

efficient streets

Posted on Sat, Mar 17 2007 at 09:49 AM

Chief Bratton's successful model of "Broken Windows" crime fighting was predicated on never overlooking any small violations and crimes. If the windows were broken, that was likely indicative of a larger problem endemic in a neighborhood.

Compstat is a direct result of an effort to stop even the smallest quality of life infractions, as well as cataloging the most heinous crimes by area to combat them. I know some of the officers responding to this site think that parking violations are not a big deal, but the entire model of the contemporary NYPD is based on not letting little things like this slide.

The public has a right to seek redress for these grievances, which is exactly what this website is meant to facilitate. Likewise, this measure comes only after years (decades for some) of complaints about the problem to the precincts, to borough commands, to Traffic Task Forces, to the Commish, the Mayor, and recently to 311 without any long-term positive results. On the occasion where a single vehicle owner is disciplined (regardless of the agency), another vehicle shows up in its place. When we've spoken to IAB, they assert that this issue has never been dealt with in a comprehensive manner like this, which leads me to assume that the localized complaints never made it past the precinct level.

We need the Mayor to come up with a real solution to the problems, which should start with a new and fair contract, more off street parking facilities, parking cash-out (where the value of your permit is monetized to market-rate parking values--think $200-500 a month--which you can take instead of the permit), and a host of other creative remedies.

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Mar 20 2007 at 08:48 PM

I agree, we should have more off site parking areas for a good rate for all plaque holders. That would be better for both the public and the plaque holders. Safer for all. Good idea just try to make it happen!!

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