The police precinct across the street always takes advantage of whatever space they can. If it's not their private cars in front of the fire hydrant, it's their three wheeled carts on the sidewalk.
There is still PLENTLY of space for pedestrians to walk safely, so this is NOT a safety hazard. It's unfortunate that there is not enough parking for Department Vehicles (not even private cars, but actual marked units like these scooters). But what is the solution? More space needs to be created somehow. The only real fix is to take the sidewalk in to half it's size, make the entire block angle parking, and PD only. This will both help Police find parking of all their equipment, and still leave enough room for pedestriants to walk safely.
Smeegle fails to note that there is perhaps 10 pedestrians per hour and there is still about 5 feet between the Scooters and the fence. Notwithstanding the fact that there are five (5) MAJOR construction sites including 130 Liberty street (WTC) continually using curbspace for concrete trucks, waste removal and cranes, there isn't enought room to park department RMP's. Many officers at this station use mass transit due to parking scarcity. Smeegle also is known to have an overall negative opinion of the facility, and wants the NYPD removed. Can anyone say nitpicky, biased photo?
Thank you for your comments. However, both of you point out EXACTLY why the act of parking on the sidewalk and taking up space on a nearly permanent basis can contribute to a lack of residents' & workers' quality of life. Not only is it harder for pedestrians to pass each other in this narrower space, but it encourages other unscrupulous people to leave their trash, and not pick up after their dogs. Furthermore it takes away from the restaurants' business on the block who have trouble making ends meet and depend on the foot traffic that this act discourages. As you so aptly point out, there is also an excess of construction and demolition in this area. Parking on the sidewalk only serves to make this vicinity even more congested. Frankly, it is inconsiderate to park here and you and the NYPD should rethink your priorities.
Ok, Smeegle, your opinion is noted, however, how about you COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. Just saying that things don't work isn't enough. I gave a solution to make more spaces, but, I'd like to hear yours. In a perfect world, all 76 precincts would be updated with modern station houses, and parking for all it's needs, but that isn't going to happen, so, how do we fix this need for parking?
Smeegle; I have never witnessed ANY problems concerning pedestrians being unable to pass each other on this sidewalk due to the general LACK of pedestrian traffic, the unscrupulous trash-leavers do so not by the scooters but by tossing said trash into the private parking lot on the right side of the photo, and finally ALL restaurants are suffering not from blocked pedestrians but the lack of businessmen not working here due to 9-11. ALL RESTAURANTS have said 9-11 and the aftermath has killed them. The NYPD will rethink it's priorities, remove the scooters, then impound and tow the 5 private motorcycles parked on the sidewalk that were behind you when you took the photo. Fair is fair.
you know what I see? I see cops who have gone well out of their way to not take up valuable parking space, and to leave as much room as possible for pedestrians and wheelchair bound people.
do you have any idea how awkward and unsafe those stupid little carts are?
or how dangerous just driving it off the sidewalk can be? but they compromised to help elevate the Quality of life in that area, and you just have to find something else to complain about.
how about all the scooters and bicycles that are left on the sidewalk? how many of you have done that? or rode you bike on a sidewalk, or without your helmet? or while yapping on the cell phone? or cut off cars in traffic? how many of you have chained your bicycles to someone else's property without their permission?
I quote Smeegle: "As you so aptly point out, there is also an excess of construction and demolition in this area. "
A previous post suggests this site is near the WTC. I am not really familiar with lower Manhattan, so I will take this at face value. I am sorry if the post 9/11 construction is interrupting your day, but seriously, no construction in that area is "excessive".
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Posted on Thu, May 08 2008 at 04:59 PM
There is still PLENTLY of space for pedestrians to walk safely, so this is NOT a safety hazard. It's unfortunate that there is not enough parking for Department Vehicles (not even private cars, but actual marked units like these scooters). But what is the solution? More space needs to be created somehow. The only real fix is to take the sidewalk in to half it's size, make the entire block angle parking, and PD only. This will both help Police find parking of all their equipment, and still leave enough room for pedestriants to walk safely.
Posted on Fri, May 09 2008 at 07:06 PM
Smeegle fails to note that there is perhaps 10 pedestrians per hour and there is still about 5 feet between the Scooters and the fence. Notwithstanding the fact that there are five (5) MAJOR construction sites including 130 Liberty street (WTC) continually using curbspace for concrete trucks, waste removal and cranes, there isn't enought room to park department RMP's. Many officers at this station use mass transit due to parking scarcity. Smeegle also is known to have an overall negative opinion of the facility, and wants the NYPD removed. Can anyone say nitpicky, biased photo?
Posted on Wed, May 21 2008 at 10:34 PM
Thank you for your comments. However, both of you point out EXACTLY why the act of parking on the sidewalk and taking up space on a nearly permanent basis can contribute to a lack of residents' & workers' quality of life. Not only is it harder for pedestrians to pass each other in this narrower space, but it encourages other unscrupulous people to leave their trash, and not pick up after their dogs. Furthermore it takes away from the restaurants' business on the block who have trouble making ends meet and depend on the foot traffic that this act discourages. As you so aptly point out, there is also an excess of construction and demolition in this area. Parking on the sidewalk only serves to make this vicinity even more congested. Frankly, it is inconsiderate to park here and you and the NYPD should rethink your priorities.
Posted on Thu, May 22 2008 at 10:48 AM
Ok, Smeegle, your opinion is noted, however, how about you COME UP WITH A SOLUTION. Just saying that things don't work isn't enough. I gave a solution to make more spaces, but, I'd like to hear yours. In a perfect world, all 76 precincts would be updated with modern station houses, and parking for all it's needs, but that isn't going to happen, so, how do we fix this need for parking?
Posted on Fri, May 23 2008 at 11:39 PM
Smeegle; I have never witnessed ANY problems concerning pedestrians being unable to pass each other on this sidewalk due to the general LACK of pedestrian traffic, the unscrupulous trash-leavers do so not by the scooters but by tossing said trash into the private parking lot on the right side of the photo, and finally ALL restaurants are suffering not from blocked pedestrians but the lack of businessmen not working here due to 9-11. ALL RESTAURANTS have said 9-11 and the aftermath has killed them. The NYPD will rethink it's priorities, remove the scooters, then impound and tow the 5 private motorcycles parked on the sidewalk that were behind you when you took the photo. Fair is fair.
Posted on Tue, Jul 08 2008 at 03:21 PM
you know what I see? I see cops who have gone well out of their way to not take up valuable parking space, and to leave as much room as possible for pedestrians and wheelchair bound people.
do you have any idea how awkward and unsafe those stupid little carts are?
or how dangerous just driving it off the sidewalk can be? but they compromised to help elevate the Quality of life in that area, and you just have to find something else to complain about.
how about all the scooters and bicycles that are left on the sidewalk? how many of you have done that? or rode you bike on a sidewalk, or without your helmet? or while yapping on the cell phone? or cut off cars in traffic? how many of you have chained your bicycles to someone else's property without their permission?
Posted on Mon, Sep 01 2008 at 03:39 AM
I quote Smeegle: "As you so aptly point out, there is also an excess of construction and demolition in this area. "
A previous post suggests this site is near the WTC. I am not really familiar with lower Manhattan, so I will take this at face value. I am sorry if the post 9/11 construction is interrupting your day, but seriously, no construction in that area is "excessive".
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