Aren’t all of these pictures that you have posted either adjacent to, or across the street from, the Brooklyn Criminal Court? Isn’t this where theses vehicles are supposed to park? Do you believe that these vehicles should not be parked outside the criminal court? Where should police vans transporting prisoners park? Should they look for parking ten blocks away from the criminal court, and escort shackled prisoners through “your precious” neighborhood? What kind of complaints would that generate to 311?
It is not lost on some of us that the Department of Education at 110 Livingston has been sold to private developers. Do you think there’re spending all that money on renovating it to make affordable housing for the types of blue collar people who work in this area? Do workers have any rights in your eyes? Or is it only the landed gentry such as j_on_state?
Here’s an idea for all you rich up and coming types who are clearly spearheading this drive against the civil SERVANTS, who do your business, why don’t you do like the developers who have purchased 110 Livingston from the city have done, and use your money to purchase all of the city-owned buildings in the area, and move out the government agencies all together (where they would go is anyone’s guess), that way everyone by the “former” criminal court could chase out the “down-trodden”, and make this area “more acceptable” to the new development model.
You people move into municipal civic centers that have been where they are for decades, and then you complain that there are a lot of municipal vehicles around? Does that make any sense?
Did you people consider that before your forced the previous residents (who didn’t complain) out, to buy or rent all of these lovely brownstones you so recently have discovered?
Its like moving next to the sanitation land fill, and then complaining about the smell and high volume of city owned garbage trucks, or moving next to a nuclear power plant, and then joining a protest to ban the very reactors that were there before you even moved in. Or, you could just not move near the “nuisance”. But no, you have to be close to work, so you could easily take your mass transit the 10 to 15 minutes that it takes you to commute from downtown Brooklyn to Manhattan.
I wonder what kind of complaining is going to happen when the Department of Corrections re-opens the Brooklyn House of detention. The complaints to 311 will be “there are some many criminals over here. Its not safe for me and little Jimmy”, “why are all these people standing on Atlantic avenue making noise? Oh, there waiting to see criminals, we have to put a stop to that! Call the Mayor.
legal Aid Mike, your one-size-fits all (and giant size, at that) approach to commenting on this series of posts undermines your credibility. This a personal vehicle parked in a crosswalk blocking people whose other routes away from this corner are blocked by construction (see the "sidewalk closed" sign). So the pedestrian who confronts this scenario has to either walk back the way they came, or walk out into traffic. You're apologizing for that?
anonymous
Posted on Tue, Mar 20 2007 at 12:09 AM
There was an article years ago about J in one of the papers bitching and moaning how the NYSJ spots in front of her brownstone were taking up precious space that could be used by her personal vehicle and others on her block on State Street.
Now that the parking regs changed, she wants it all. Apparently when J moved into the area (in the mid 80's) the area was a depressed sh--hole. Drugs, homeless, abandoned buildings, etc. You couldnt give these crumbling buildings away. I am sure she appreciated the LE presence during those years but now, the court buildings have become an eyesore to her.
Her happy day is when the eyesore that is 120 Schermerhorn is closed and the Criminal court building moves to E. NY or Canarsie.
"Legal Aid Mike" and "anonymous commenter" have cut and pasted the same comments all over this site. That's why their posts have nothing to do with the picture or description.
As for this picture, yes, there's scaffolding and the sidewalk on Smith St. is closed, but on State St. (to the left) it's open. This vehicle blocks people who walk up the South side of State and then try to make a right onto Smith.
After browsing this site and the comments for several days and reading the NY Times Metro section article on 3/22/2007 I am more upset than ever before. There has to be a better way to reduce car traffic in New York than "outing" parking plaques on civil servants cars. Especially vital services like police, fire, and court employees. What is even worse is that when we park legally we are taking spots away from you! You are cutting off your nose to spite your face!!!
HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT
That is Idiotic!!!!
I need to be able to park my car near my command. I don't block hydrants, crosswalks, or busstops, noone should. I do put the wheels on the sidewalk NOT close off the sidewalk. I may be there 8 hours on a normal day. I could be there 20 hours if I have an arrest a mobilization or a or unusual case.
I need to park the car near the command in a secure spot and do my job without worrying about the car. I can't take public transportation because of the service and route changes at 2 and 3 a.m. when I get off of work. Some bus lines are not even running. At that time in the morning it takes me 2 hours 10 minutes to get home but only 30 minutes by car.
Why don't you go after the MTA!!
On 9/11 all the busses and subways into Manhattan were shut down. How were the cops and firemen supposed to get to work then???
You guys have to think this through.
What is even worse is you censor the site!!! There is not a true debate you remove postings that argue for you to change or moderate your approach. It is a private site (hmmm...you are a not for profit) maybe you can do what you want with it, but you are not fair!
Is there something else behind this? This is animus, What are you really angry about??? Let's talk this out.
You need to be carefull about what you are starting here. There are a whole lot of laws on the books we don't enforce due to tradition and because social norms have changed. What if we handcuffed everyone for smoking a joint or not cleaning up after their dog, and put them through the system, instead of giving summonses. Do you really want to turn all of New York City into a Total Enforcement Zone? If you do I know where to start....West 26th.
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Posted on Mon, Mar 19 2007 at 10:45 AM
Sidewalk is closed, and intersection has been extended due to the construction barriers.
Doesn't make it right, but does explain why he chose to park there.
Posted on Mon, Mar 19 2007 at 02:03 PM
Aren’t all of these pictures that you have posted either adjacent to, or across the street from, the Brooklyn Criminal Court? Isn’t this where theses vehicles are supposed to park? Do you believe that these vehicles should not be parked outside the criminal court? Where should police vans transporting prisoners park? Should they look for parking ten blocks away from the criminal court, and escort shackled prisoners through “your precious” neighborhood? What kind of complaints would that generate to 311?
It is not lost on some of us that the Department of Education at 110 Livingston has been sold to private developers. Do you think there’re spending all that money on renovating it to make affordable housing for the types of blue collar people who work in this area? Do workers have any rights in your eyes? Or is it only the landed gentry such as j_on_state?
Here’s an idea for all you rich up and coming types who are clearly spearheading this drive against the civil SERVANTS, who do your business, why don’t you do like the developers who have purchased 110 Livingston from the city have done, and use your money to purchase all of the city-owned buildings in the area, and move out the government agencies all together (where they would go is anyone’s guess), that way everyone by the “former” criminal court could chase out the “down-trodden”, and make this area “more acceptable” to the new development model.
You people move into municipal civic centers that have been where they are for decades, and then you complain that there are a lot of municipal vehicles around? Does that make any sense?
Did you people consider that before your forced the previous residents (who didn’t complain) out, to buy or rent all of these lovely brownstones you so recently have discovered?
Its like moving next to the sanitation land fill, and then complaining about the smell and high volume of city owned garbage trucks, or moving next to a nuclear power plant, and then joining a protest to ban the very reactors that were there before you even moved in. Or, you could just not move near the “nuisance”. But no, you have to be close to work, so you could easily take your mass transit the 10 to 15 minutes that it takes you to commute from downtown Brooklyn to Manhattan.
I wonder what kind of complaining is going to happen when the Department of Corrections re-opens the Brooklyn House of detention. The complaints to 311 will be “there are some many criminals over here. Its not safe for me and little Jimmy”, “why are all these people standing on Atlantic avenue making noise? Oh, there waiting to see criminals, we have to put a stop to that! Call the Mayor.
Posted on Mon, Mar 19 2007 at 05:33 PM
legal Aid Mike, your one-size-fits all (and giant size, at that) approach to commenting on this series of posts undermines your credibility. This a personal vehicle parked in a crosswalk blocking people whose other routes away from this corner are blocked by construction (see the "sidewalk closed" sign). So the pedestrian who confronts this scenario has to either walk back the way they came, or walk out into traffic. You're apologizing for that?
Posted on Tue, Mar 20 2007 at 12:09 AM
There was an article years ago about J in one of the papers bitching and moaning how the NYSJ spots in front of her brownstone were taking up precious space that could be used by her personal vehicle and others on her block on State Street.
Now that the parking regs changed, she wants it all. Apparently when J moved into the area (in the mid 80's) the area was a depressed sh--hole. Drugs, homeless, abandoned buildings, etc. You couldnt give these crumbling buildings away. I am sure she appreciated the LE presence during those years but now, the court buildings have become an eyesore to her.
Her happy day is when the eyesore that is 120 Schermerhorn is closed and the Criminal court building moves to E. NY or Canarsie.
Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 11:10 PM
"Legal Aid Mike" and "anonymous commenter" have cut and pasted the same comments all over this site. That's why their posts have nothing to do with the picture or description.
As for this picture, yes, there's scaffolding and the sidewalk on Smith St. is closed, but on State St. (to the left) it's open. This vehicle blocks people who walk up the South side of State and then try to make a right onto Smith.
Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 11:47 PM
After browsing this site and the comments for several days and reading the NY Times Metro section article on 3/22/2007 I am more upset than ever before. There has to be a better way to reduce car traffic in New York than "outing" parking plaques on civil servants cars. Especially vital services like police, fire, and court employees. What is even worse is that when we park legally we are taking spots away from you! You are cutting off your nose to spite your face!!!
HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT
That is Idiotic!!!!
I need to be able to park my car near my command. I don't block hydrants, crosswalks, or busstops, noone should. I do put the wheels on the sidewalk NOT close off the sidewalk. I may be there 8 hours on a normal day. I could be there 20 hours if I have an arrest a mobilization or a or unusual case.
I need to park the car near the command in a secure spot and do my job without worrying about the car. I can't take public transportation because of the service and route changes at 2 and 3 a.m. when I get off of work. Some bus lines are not even running. At that time in the morning it takes me 2 hours 10 minutes to get home but only 30 minutes by car.
Why don't you go after the MTA!!
On 9/11 all the busses and subways into Manhattan were shut down. How were the cops and firemen supposed to get to work then???
You guys have to think this through.
What is even worse is you censor the site!!! There is not a true debate you remove postings that argue for you to change or moderate your approach. It is a private site (hmmm...you are a not for profit) maybe you can do what you want with it, but you are not fair!
Is there something else behind this? This is animus, What are you really angry about??? Let's talk this out.
You need to be carefull about what you are starting here. There are a whole lot of laws on the books we don't enforce due to tradition and because social norms have changed. What if we handcuffed everyone for smoking a joint or not cleaning up after their dog, and put them through the system, instead of giving summonses. Do you really want to turn all of New York City into a Total Enforcement Zone? If you do I know where to start....West 26th.
Posted on Sun, Mar 25 2007 at 12:33 AM
Most of these posts are cut and pasters
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