Aren’t all of these pictures that you have posted either adjacent to, or across the street from, the Brooklyn Criminal Court? Isn’t this where theses vehicles are supposed to park? Do you believe that these vehicles should not be parked outside the criminal court? Where should police vans transporting prisoners park? Should they look for parking ten blocks away from the criminal court, and escort shackled prisoners through “your precious” neighborhood? What kind of complaints would that generate to 311?
It is not lost on some of us that the Department of Education at 110 Livingston has been sold to private developers. Do you think there’re spending all that money on renovating it to make affordable housing for the types of blue collar people who work in this area? Do workers have any rights in your eyes? Or is it only the landed gentry such as j_on_state?
Here’s an idea for all you rich up and coming types who are clearly spearheading this drive against the civil SERVANTS, who do your business, why don’t you do like the developers who have purchased 110 Livingston from the city have done, and use your money to purchase all of the city-owned buildings in the area, and move out the government agencies all together (where they would go is anyone’s guess), that way everyone by the “former” criminal court could chase out the “down-trodden”, and make this area “more acceptable” to the new development model.
You people move into municipal civic centers that have been where they are for decades, and then you complain that there are a lot of municipal vehicles around? Does that make any sense?
Did you people consider that before your forced the previous residents (who didn’t complain) out, to buy or rent all of these lovely brownstones you so recently have discovered?
Its like moving next to the sanitation land fill, and then complaining about the smell and high volume of city owned garbage trucks, or moving next to a nuclear power plant, and then joining a protest to ban the very reactors that were there before you even moved in. Or, you could just not move near the “nuisance”. But no, you have to be close to work, so you could easily take your mass transit the 10 to 15 minutes that it takes you to commute from downtown Brooklyn to Manhattan.
I wonder what kind of complaining is going to happen when the Department of Corrections re-opens the Brooklyn House of detention. The complaints to 311 will be “there are some many criminals over here. Its not safe for me and little Jimmy”, “why are all these people standing on Atlantic avenue making noise? Oh, there waiting to see criminals, we have to put a stop to that! Call the Mayor.
Mike, no one thinks vehicles should be parking on the sidewalk except in the case of an emergency. If there's a regular need to transport prisoners into and out of that building, there should be an optimally-located dedicated spaces for vehicles engaged in those operations. The unmarked white van next to the marked vehicle may well be such a space, and if so it should have been available so that this guy didn't have to go on the sidewalk. You know as well as I do that the right answer is not to champion the right to park on the sidewalk.
anonymous
Posted on Tue, Mar 20 2007 at 12:08 AM
There was an article years ago about J in one of the papers bitching and moaning how the NYSJ spots in front of her brownstone were taking up precious space that could be used by her personal vehicle and others on her block on State Street.
Now that the parking regs changed, she wants it all. Apparently when J moved into the area (in the mid 80's) the area was a depressed sh--hole. Drugs, homeless, abandoned buildings, etc. You couldnt give these crumbling buildings away. I am sure she appreciated the LE presence during those years but now, the court buildings have become an eyesore to her.
Her happy day is when the eyesore that is 120 Schermerhorn is closed and the Criminal court building moves to E. NY or Canarsie.
I've yet to see a court building in this city with adequate parking. Too many agencies work in these buildings and all need parking.
A marked van in a crosswalk leads me to believe this was a "daisy chain" of arrestees... one or two chains with 4 to 10 prisoners total being dropped off at central booking. Not an easy amount of people to walk 2 or 3 blocks to court. If 3 officers were assigned you can drop off 2 officers with the prisoners as the driver looks for parking... if only 2 cops are assigned you can't walk far and take whatever parking you can squeeze into.
I'm not saying that the parking is correct... i'm just saying how I can see it happened.
anonymous
Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 09:47 AM
NYC Transit does not allow its service vehicles to park on the sidewalk even thought it's convenient to do so.
Perhaps the Mayor need to threaten to take away their transportation if they violate parking rules. Let's see how many vehicle are parked illegally.
anonymous
Posted on Fri, Mar 23 2007 at 03:29 PM
Your right, it is a safety hazard--to the Police you moron, they are there dropping off prisoners in Brooklyn Central Booking. What if they had had to walk two blocks with the daisy-chained 8 perps from the 75 and one of the perps buddies comes by and takes a shot at the cops...you liberal tree-huggers the only reason Park Slope is safe today is because of the NYPD, show some gratitude for once.
#5, I love your idea. Put all the cops on foot. That way they truly will never be around when you need them... priceless.
I would usually not address a post like this, but if this is your idea of improving this city then I fear for this city.
anonymous
Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2007 at 12:35 AM
When people bought those broken down ,rat and bug infested houses on state street they knew the criminal court building and the Brooklyn house were there, but they saw the potential to make big money on those houses ( good for them) but now as you whine and complain, just be happy that you have 24 hour protection from all the Court Officers, Correction Officers and Police Officers walking and parking in your area all night every night, because I remember that area when NO ONE would walk in that area at night..only the criminals and they were not shackled
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Posted on Mon, Mar 19 2007 at 02:03 PM
Aren’t all of these pictures that you have posted either adjacent to, or across the street from, the Brooklyn Criminal Court? Isn’t this where theses vehicles are supposed to park? Do you believe that these vehicles should not be parked outside the criminal court? Where should police vans transporting prisoners park? Should they look for parking ten blocks away from the criminal court, and escort shackled prisoners through “your precious” neighborhood? What kind of complaints would that generate to 311?
It is not lost on some of us that the Department of Education at 110 Livingston has been sold to private developers. Do you think there’re spending all that money on renovating it to make affordable housing for the types of blue collar people who work in this area? Do workers have any rights in your eyes? Or is it only the landed gentry such as j_on_state?
Here’s an idea for all you rich up and coming types who are clearly spearheading this drive against the civil SERVANTS, who do your business, why don’t you do like the developers who have purchased 110 Livingston from the city have done, and use your money to purchase all of the city-owned buildings in the area, and move out the government agencies all together (where they would go is anyone’s guess), that way everyone by the “former” criminal court could chase out the “down-trodden”, and make this area “more acceptable” to the new development model.
You people move into municipal civic centers that have been where they are for decades, and then you complain that there are a lot of municipal vehicles around? Does that make any sense?
Did you people consider that before your forced the previous residents (who didn’t complain) out, to buy or rent all of these lovely brownstones you so recently have discovered?
Its like moving next to the sanitation land fill, and then complaining about the smell and high volume of city owned garbage trucks, or moving next to a nuclear power plant, and then joining a protest to ban the very reactors that were there before you even moved in. Or, you could just not move near the “nuisance”. But no, you have to be close to work, so you could easily take your mass transit the 10 to 15 minutes that it takes you to commute from downtown Brooklyn to Manhattan.
I wonder what kind of complaining is going to happen when the Department of Corrections re-opens the Brooklyn House of detention. The complaints to 311 will be “there are some many criminals over here. Its not safe for me and little Jimmy”, “why are all these people standing on Atlantic avenue making noise? Oh, there waiting to see criminals, we have to put a stop to that! Call the Mayor.
Posted on Mon, Mar 19 2007 at 04:28 PM
Mike, no one thinks vehicles should be parking on the sidewalk except in the case of an emergency. If there's a regular need to transport prisoners into and out of that building, there should be an optimally-located dedicated spaces for vehicles engaged in those operations. The unmarked white van next to the marked vehicle may well be such a space, and if so it should have been available so that this guy didn't have to go on the sidewalk. You know as well as I do that the right answer is not to champion the right to park on the sidewalk.
Posted on Tue, Mar 20 2007 at 12:08 AM
There was an article years ago about J in one of the papers bitching and moaning how the NYSJ spots in front of her brownstone were taking up precious space that could be used by her personal vehicle and others on her block on State Street.
Now that the parking regs changed, she wants it all. Apparently when J moved into the area (in the mid 80's) the area was a depressed sh--hole. Drugs, homeless, abandoned buildings, etc. You couldnt give these crumbling buildings away. I am sure she appreciated the LE presence during those years but now, the court buildings have become an eyesore to her.
Her happy day is when the eyesore that is 120 Schermerhorn is closed and the Criminal court building moves to E. NY or Canarsie.
Posted on Wed, Mar 21 2007 at 08:32 PM
I've yet to see a court building in this city with adequate parking. Too many agencies work in these buildings and all need parking.
A marked van in a crosswalk leads me to believe this was a "daisy chain" of arrestees... one or two chains with 4 to 10 prisoners total being dropped off at central booking. Not an easy amount of people to walk 2 or 3 blocks to court. If 3 officers were assigned you can drop off 2 officers with the prisoners as the driver looks for parking... if only 2 cops are assigned you can't walk far and take whatever parking you can squeeze into.
I'm not saying that the parking is correct... i'm just saying how I can see it happened.
Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 09:47 AM
NYC Transit does not allow its service vehicles to park on the sidewalk even thought it's convenient to do so.
Perhaps the Mayor need to threaten to take away their transportation if they violate parking rules. Let's see how many vehicle are parked illegally.
Posted on Fri, Mar 23 2007 at 03:29 PM
Your right, it is a safety hazard--to the Police you moron, they are there dropping off prisoners in Brooklyn Central Booking. What if they had had to walk two blocks with the daisy-chained 8 perps from the 75 and one of the perps buddies comes by and takes a shot at the cops...you liberal tree-huggers the only reason Park Slope is safe today is because of the NYPD, show some gratitude for once.
Posted on Fri, Mar 23 2007 at 09:17 PM
#5, I love your idea. Put all the cops on foot. That way they truly will never be around when you need them... priceless.
I would usually not address a post like this, but if this is your idea of improving this city then I fear for this city.
Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2007 at 12:35 AM
When people bought those broken down ,rat and bug infested houses on state street they knew the criminal court building and the Brooklyn house were there, but they saw the potential to make big money on those houses ( good for them) but now as you whine and complain, just be happy that you have 24 hour protection from all the Court Officers, Correction Officers and Police Officers walking and parking in your area all night every night, because I remember that area when NO ONE would walk in that area at night..only the criminals and they were not shackled
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