Private Parking for BSTF at Hydrant

Observed by goodcitizen135 on Wed, Mar 21 2007

Don't bother calling 311 on this one. Numerous calls demonstrate that local police would rather claim the vehicle was moved than issue a summons. This vehicle regularly treats this fire hydrant as personal property. This endangers everyone on our narrow residential street and inconveniences the elderly, the disabled, and anyone else trying to unload into the adjacent lobby.

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anonymous

Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 12:05 PM

What do you mean the local police would "rather claim the vehicle was moved than issue a summons"?

Are you calling the police liars?

efficient streets

Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 12:09 PM

Hey Good Citizen,
Please blur out the license plate info. We've got this photo in our records, and will follow up with the authorities.

We're trying to limit license plates being visible on the main pages of the site.

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 12:15 PM

There is no such thing as a "self-enforcemnent zone"

goodcitizen135

Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 12:30 PM

1-We have tremendous respect for the NYPD but every 311 complaint has come back indicating that the police responded and either the vehicle was not present, or the vehicle was moved, etc. and frequently the car is still there!
2-I don't know how to blur the plate, but I know what the number is and I can't propperly make it out from this photo.
3-The permit is an unlaminated paper precinct pass from BSTF. A previous pass was also a precinct pass from the 69. I tried to pick the most accurate from the drop down.

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 12:37 PM

it's quite obvious that GOODCITIZEN does not own a car or knows very little about parking a car on the streets of NYC. Here in NYC, parking is so scarce that the legal limit to be away from a hydrant has been comprimised. Sad but true. WHO parks their car 15 feet away from a hydrant in either direction? I know I haven't hence I'm guilty of doing so in the past. I've squeezed by and I've been ticketed before. Not a good feeling. The bottom line is that there are too many cars here in NYC hence parking is difficult. Based on the picture the car is not on top of the hydrant like other pics on this site. The driver did leave a some distance before the hydrant. I think there is some sort of personal gripe going on here because the pic isn't bad. I understand the point GOODCITIZEN is trying to make but there are more serious crimes out there like child moletsters and gang members robbing hard working citizens. Why make the Police Offcier's job that much harder, besides they don't get much... a tick over $25,000 to start? I suppose it's a fringe benefit to them. I support the Police here in NYC, they seem to do a good job in maintaining order within the city.

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 03:30 PM

Many cities have rules less than 15 feet. Our current law is 15 feet. Anyone interested in changing that should contact their councilman and get him/her to introduce legislation to do so. Untill it is changed it is 15 feet - fair or not. A sidewalk flag is approx 5 feet. so from the pic above the flag that the hydrant is in is 5 feet. The vehicle is clearly too close and should be ticketed - especially after public complaints have been made.

anonymous

Posted on Thu, Mar 22 2007 at 04:23 PM

How about we create a web site for those 311 workers who don't do their job? GOODCITIZEN135 has been grossly misinformed.... someone should pay dearly. Would that make GOODCITIZEN135 content? What's next? Dogs that aren't curbed?

I think canine waste on sidewalks poses agreater detriment to humans than a parking issue. Canine waste spreads DISEASES among humans!

I would like to start a web site on dog walkers that don't curb their dogs properly.

Who wants to help?

tunnelpopo

Posted on Fri, Mar 23 2007 at 01:26 AM

This picture was not taken on Ocean Parkway. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about Brooklyn, would know that that aint Ocean Parkway. Get your facts straight!

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 23 2007 at 04:01 AM

The rule is fifteen feet because that's what's needed to connect a hose and have the rig with it. The hoses when chrged, bend in an arc and that car is in the way.

An hour or 2 ago there was a suspicious fire on Unionport Road in the Bronx where there were 5 serious injuries.

If they live at all it will because no one was on the hydrant.

Fifteen feet is not some number picked out of the air, it is the minimum.

anonymous

Posted on Fri, Mar 23 2007 at 09:09 AM

If that isn't Ocean Parkway then..... is the griper making things up to make their case more solid. I think facts should be verified before accusing people of doing certain things. Being accused with the wrong information is wrong.

anonymous

Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2007 at 03:19 AM

First and foremost,
Are we in Iraq, where freedom of speech based on obscene comments are subject to censorship? It's because of our rights to voice our views, whether pro or con, that provide you the freedom to create this website and express to those who leave what you perceive as "threatening comments"with the topping of being investigated. Have we forgotten the sacrifices of police officers, fire fighters, court officers and other law enforcement officials that have lost their lives protecting this city in the last two years? How about in the last fourteen days? Including Auxiliary officers who receive no compensation for their time or service. These men and women attempt against all odds to provide a service that most of us would not even fathom to do. They see people at their best and their worst. They carry and hold these images in their souls until they pass on to the after life. And let's not even touch on 911. With an economy where their miniscule salaries dont even keep up with the rate of inflation and the surrounding counties present a far better opportunity, if a law enforcement official still wishes to remain, live, rent, buy and spend what they do earn within the boundaries of the five boroughs and opt not flee outside of them...the liberty to park five feet from a hydrant instead of fifteen doesn't seem so criminal after all...

anonymous

Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2007 at 03:37 AM

No such liberty to park 5 feet from a hydrant. It stops the hose from being hooked up. Fiftenn feet is the minimum for an engine to properly hook up.

Those Aux's broke the rules and look at what happened. They aren't supposed to confront an armed perp.

They paid with their lives for breaking the rules, heroic as they were in stopping a madman from more murder.

Same thing with the hydrants. There's a reason why it's fifteen feet.

Salguod

Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2007 at 09:55 AM

GoodCitizen135--

Thanks for submitting this. We are going to be following up on hydrant blocking as one of our top priorities.

Can you get a picture of the permit and the permit # for your third picture? "South Brooklyn Task Force" is the unit, not the permit number.

Or better yet, if you can catch this guy again, just do it as a new posting. It will make the complaint more effective when we submit it.

Also, are you sure about the address?

Salguod

Posted on Sat, Mar 24 2007 at 08:36 PM

This is basically a re-hash of the same, tired arguments:

1. The threat to retaliate by ticketing more or enforcing other laws more (bikes/yuppies/double parkers in Brooklyn/whatever). Our stock response: knock yourselves out. Maybe you'll be better than your chain of command at motivating your peers to be more productive.

2. The false comparison of occasional discretion vs. a complete free ride.

3. The general lack of manliness of anyone participating in this project. (One might suggest we're pretty damned brave, given the number of armed individuals who have threatened to harm us under color of law.)

4. The geographic distribution of the complaints. You're right, we've been focusing primarily on our own neighborhoods. We'll be evangelizing this site to associations in other neighborhoods once we're happy with the software.

5. The made-up claim that we're asking cops to look for a legal spot when "combating violent crime."

Do you have anything original to offer?

anonymous

Posted on Tue, Mar 27 2007 at 04:46 AM

Lack of manliness? I've had bones broken, put in jail with perjured complaints, cameras taken at gunpoint, film stolen while in police custody, assaulted, cameras smashed by sheriffs, found cops sneaking around my property after a picture was thought to have been taken and wasn't, camera robbed at gunpoint by the FBI for taking a picture of their permit, you name it.

I've also broken up robberies outnumbered 3 to one, 10 to one, and 15 to one, armed with only a camera. It was great to yell out "FBI, everybody freeze" as 15 perps were escaping, making them run faster!

I've stopped a union beating during a garbage carters strike where the summons writing foot post ran away after seeing what was going on, not bothering to radio in. I had to call 911. He was giving a summons to a lady holding a baby in her lap while the car was 2 feet into the crosswalk, before running off.

I backed up FDNY going into Queensbridge Projects to put out the Housing PD substation set on fire during the Rodney King riots when the cops ran away, armed only with a camera.

Lack of manliness? You insult me sir! I'm only trying to do the right thing. I said the Pledge of Allegiance too many times in the third grade to have it any other way. I really believed that truth, justice and the American way thing.

Still do.

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