NYPD parking Illegally in Defiance of Community Board 8

Observed by Dick Tracy on Wed, Jun 17 2009

Continued blatant placard parking abuse in a NO STANDING ANYTIME zone despite a formal request to the commander of the 19th precinct to cease and desist the illegal activity by community board 8M.

These islands are part of the parks department Greenstreets program and this bit of greenery for the community totally being totally disrespected by NYPD employees for their own convenience. Thus rather than a park we have a dog feces/refuse lot surrounded by illegally parked placarded cars.
http://nycgovparks.org/sub_your_park/trees_greenstreets/greenstreets.html

This blatant police parking abuse sets the stage for a cesspool of parking abuse on this street. Why not after all the police are doing it, why not me.

This the meters are full of all day parkers most with bogus placards, a few 19th precinct placards and the so-called truck loading and unloading zone devoid of trucks loading and unloading but full of scofflaws.

Amazingly the community board 8 people misplaced a resolution to change the signage on North side of the street from Trucks loading to normal street parking which would have taken effect about at this time. To this date the cb refuses official comment. A formal complaint has been filed with the borough president's office yesterday.

Prior reports:
http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/454

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1000

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1068

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1069

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1072

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1073

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1074

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1085

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/8122

http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/8389

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hungtat

Posted on Wed, Jun 17 2009 at 12:58 PM

i would love to know how do you determine if a placard is bogus or not.

Dick Tracy

Posted on Wed, Jun 17 2009 at 04:42 PM

Actually there is a guide the DOT issues to the enforcement people. Contact TA and they may be able to send you copy.

dragonman

Posted on Wed, Jun 17 2009 at 10:44 PM

Dick Tracy if you want to park like they get to park with their legal placards then take the test.

hungtat

Posted on Thu, Jun 18 2009 at 09:54 AM

TA means transportation alternative?

Dick Tracy

Posted on Thu, Jun 18 2009 at 12:06 PM

It is really very simple dragonman. Placard parking is not permitted at fire hydrants, in crosswalks, in bus stops, on the side walk and in NO STANDING/STOPPING ANYTIME zones. That is the law.

Dick Tracy

Posted on Thu, Jun 18 2009 at 12:11 PM

Yes T.A. is Transportation Alternatives.
In this case TA supplied the DOT guide to community board 8m and a representative sent information packs and appeared at the monthly meeting at which time the community board agreed it was illegal placard parking and told the commander the DOT examined that area and the NO STANDING ANYTIME was the appropriate signage. The community board then wrote a letter to Inspector Murgagh I quoted in a prior post,

This is obvious and clear placard parking abuse and illegal.

Fuss

Posted on Thu, Jun 18 2009 at 10:30 PM

Speaking as a Traffic Agent, I can say with total assurance that none of my fellow brothers or sisters would ever issue a summons to the police officers parked in this area. Traffic agents enjoy the protection of the umbrella that is called the N.Y.P.D. A summons would not ever be issued especially since this is within their Self Enforcement Area. Mutual respect among law enforcement agencies is a wonderful thing.
Nothing to see here,folks. I would rather skip this block and just summons yuppie car owners who could afford the summons.

dragonman

Posted on Thu, Jun 18 2009 at 10:34 PM

I guess it really worked. They are still parking there. And guess what? No tickets.

Fuss

Posted on Fri, Jun 19 2009 at 11:01 AM

As long as I have been reading this site(since 2007), this little stretch of pavement has always been complained about. All this constant complaining and involvement will not get anything done. The involvement of community board 8 means nothing in the bigger scheme of things. They have no jurisdiction over the N.Y.P.D and therefore are toothless tigers. We at the TEA will not even walk/drive in that area because it belongs to the 19th precinct and the officers of the 19th pct will not enforce the traffic regulations their either so who do you expect to write summonses there? The fact of the matter is that this is part of the 19th precinct's self enforcement area and being such all bets are off when it comes to placarded parking. My suggestion to the residents of the area is to get used to it and get on with their yuppie existence. Look at the bright side, at least their is a police presence on their block.

Dick Tracy

Posted on Fri, Jun 19 2009 at 02:27 PM

And I assume this imaginary self enforcement zone extends from the door of the precinct to Alpha Centuri. Fact is there is no basis in fact or law for a self enforcement zone. What we see here is a hypocrisy and a self convenience zone.

lawandorder

Posted on Fri, Jun 19 2009 at 03:10 PM

"Self-enforcement zones" are in fact mentioned in DOT's Parking Enforcement Card, though not by name. According to this document, NYPD Unrestricted placards are allowed in such zones, but such zones are only valid within 1 block of the Precinct, and placard holders can never park in crosswalks, on sidewalks, in bike lanes, in front of driveways, at fire hydrants and in No Stopping/Standing zones (emergencies excepted of course). So these cars are most definitely parked illegally.

As to whether or not such SEZs are actually legal (i.e., can the DOT/NYPD establish such zones), well, that's another question.

I'd also advise ignoring the various trolls on this site.

Fuss

Posted on Fri, Jun 19 2009 at 06:19 PM

All TEA/DOT agents are trained to give other law enforcement agencies courtesy. Discretion is the order of the day and only I can determine who gets a summons or a free pass. Usually these entities are Police Officers and Firemen but I have been known to extend it to other agencies within NYC as well. The rule of thumb over at the TEA/DOT is that we are not to piss in any one else's pond. Self Enforcement Areas of other agencies are off limits.....PERIOD! To summons anyone within these zones is considered job suicide. In return for staying out of their zones they stay out of ours, hence the term self enforcement area. Lawandorder states that crosswalks and No standing areas are off limits to placarded people. Yes, I agree but who is going to enforce these rules? At my facility in queens, parking is terrible and as a result TEA agents are allowed to park in undesirable spots. This comes down from the very top. Like I said, within a self enforcement area I can park with impunity because we do not enforce the rules against our own. This is reality so get used to it.
Oh one more thing: A self enforcement area is not restricted to a one block radius surrounding a precinct or TEA facility. The size is dictated by the number of workers. As I recall the 19th pct has one of the largest precincts, in terms of police officers, in all of Manhattan, therefore it is practical to surmise that the self enforcement area will be larger than a one block radius. I hate to say it but the above mention strip of land is now part of the 19th precinct's SEZ.

hiyall

Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2009 at 07:35 AM

"All TEA/DOT agents are trained to give other law enforcement agencies courtesy." - it is just this type of conspiracy that elevates it to a RICO.

Fuss

Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2009 at 10:23 AM

RICO? Do you even know what RICO stands for? Before you go spouting terms that you can't possibly fathom or understand might I suggest you take the time to do a little research. Allow me to educate you:

RICO offenses
Under the law, racketeering activity means:

Any act of bribery, counterfeiting, theft, embezzlement, fraud, dealing in obscene matter, obstruction of justice, slavery, racketeering, gambling, money laundering, commission of murder-for-hire, and several other offenses covered under the Federal criminal code (Title 18);
Embezzlement of union funds;
Bankruptcy or securities fraud;
Drug trafficking;
Money laundering and related offenses;
Bringing in, aiding or assisting aliens in illegally entering the country (if the action was for financial gain);
Acts of terrorism.

ISN'T THAT ODD? There is no mention of parking violations under the crimes covered by RICO. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

If indeed the supposed unlawful act of "professional courtesy" fell under the realm of RICO then the feds would have been all over this decades ago. For the record, parking violations are just that....violations. Base on Hiyall's rational why stop at RICO when it comes to traffic violations? Why not call a U.N general assembly and bring this plight to the attention of other nations?
Wow, talk about drowning oneself in a cup of water.

Dick Tracy

Posted on Wed, Jun 24 2009 at 03:10 PM

Police violating parking rules for their own convenience is hardly professional behavior nor are any of your courtesy claims anything other then corruption and dereliction of duty. This crap gives the public good reason to have no respect for the police or the law or the mayor for that matter.

dragonman

Posted on Thu, Jun 25 2009 at 07:42 AM

No Dick Tracy. This is the thanks they get for risking their lives to serve the public. This is a little perk they get and everyone cries about it. I've said this many many times. If they park where you can't park then that leaves a spot for you. Maybe what they should do is go around the neighborhood and take up all the spots so you and everyone else will not be able to find parking. When their tour is over give that spot to a fellow officer so they have a place to park.

Fuss

Posted on Thu, Jun 25 2009 at 09:11 AM

Corruption? Dereliction of duty? What outlandish boast you make, Dick Tracy. If anything you spouted was true then the whole NYPD department would be under investigation by the federal government but alas no such thing has happened. I am sure if you keep asking for it someone in Washington will finally do something(sarcasm at its highest level). When will you finally understand that professional courtesy and discretion are tools of the trade. As for respect, you can keep it. DOT/TEA agents already get zilch from the public so why should I care at all. This is one of the main reasons I love my job. It allows me to get back at those who look down their noses at me and my profession.

Dick Tracy

Posted on Thu, Jun 25 2009 at 11:24 AM

Your comments just reinforce what I wrote and thus this crap gives the public good reason to have no respect for the police or the law. This is serving themselves at the expense of the public.

Fuss

Posted on Thu, Jun 25 2009 at 11:44 AM

As I said before, you can keep your respect and stuff it in your pocket and save it for later. The job of the DOT/TEA agent is a thankless one. We are deemed the the scum of the Earth and we are used to it. I could care less what the public thinks. I am here to do a job and that is to enforce the traffic regulations of this great city. Yes, my pay is half that of a police officers but I wield the same sort of power via the issuance of summonses. Discretion affords me the luxury of picking and choosing who will pay a fine and frankly I enjoy my job and all the parking perks that come along with it. What other job allows me to park for free at any police facility. A NYPD placard and a dream is all one needs.

Dick Tracy

Posted on Thu, Jun 25 2009 at 12:23 PM

A great city represents the public need, not yours.

hiyall

Posted on Mon, Jun 29 2009 at 07:48 AM

3. Extortion under Color Of Official Right - fits like a glove. Any idea what property is being extorted?

Racketeering Activity

1. Mail and Wire Fraud
2. Bank Fraud
3. Extortion
1. The Obtaining of Property from Another And Threats of Physical Violence
2. The Issue of Consent
3. Extortion under Color Of Official Right
4. Extortion vs. Legitimate Exercise of Government Power
5. Other Predicate Acts Related to Extortion

dragonman

Posted on Mon, Jun 29 2009 at 11:21 AM

I didn't know parking legally with a placard is extortion. Hiyall you come up with some good stories. Please tell us another one.

Fuss

Posted on Mon, Jun 29 2009 at 01:20 PM

Hiyall, now that is a whopper of a tale my dear friend. Where is the outcry over this criminal activity? Where are The liberal media, Sharpton and Jesse Jackson? Where are the federal and local probes? Please, please tell me you have more than just an over zealous imagination. Please tell me that you are not pinning all your hopes on this gut feeling of yours.
Talk about a person who is trying to shade the entire world with just his index finger.WOW!

mvodohmh

Posted on Mon, Jun 29 2009 at 03:35 PM

So what if the NYPD gets a place to park??? Who do you think answers your calls for emergencies??? Your local board????? Okay, if you get robbed or hurt or anything happens to you or your family call your local board!!! I'm sure they'll rush out to help you... So you think the cars parked there cause the dog feces/refuse???? So you think the cops just park there to get rid of their trash??? OMG!!! How about having the board put up signs to curb the dogs and pick up after them??? I'm sure the local residents there have NO dogs to speak of!!! Hey Dick, get a clue like your namesake!

hiyall

Posted on Tue, Jun 30 2009 at 02:25 PM

Not a whopper and I didn't write and pass the Hobbs Act ... congress did.

Just another messy law that you would selectively apply Fuss.

hiyall

Posted on Tue, Jun 30 2009 at 02:29 PM

Off duty cops parking illegally, causing congestion, line of sight issues, blocking fire hydrants to shop at a mall or run laps in a school facility on weekends are not "risking their lives" to help others.

Rather they are "risking the lives of others". Woman was hit by a car at the location that I watch and the neighborhood has lost at least 3 youths to traffic accidents over the past 2 years. Those are the tragic facts.

hiyall

Posted on Wed, Jul 01 2009 at 09:54 AM

All of you naysayers who support the organized lawlessness by NYPD offduty employees, please explain how illegal activity that increases congestion, results in line of sight blockages, blocked access to fire hydrants, crosswalks, bicycle paths, handicapped parking, scarce legal parking that supports the neighborhood businesses is somehow a positive contribution to the neighborhoods that it occurs in.

I am waiting.

dragonman

Posted on Wed, Jul 01 2009 at 10:22 AM

The tragic facts hiyall is this. The legally parked cars with placards did not cause those accidents. The woman was jaywalking. If she crossed at the corner like she was supposed to do she'll be alive today. The kid on the bike was going the wrong way. If he was following the direction of the traffic he'll be alive today. So explain how the parked cars caused the accidents.

I am waiting.

Dick Tracy

Posted on Wed, Jul 01 2009 at 03:03 PM

I call myself Dick Tracy and not Inspector Murtagh for good reason. Dick Tracy serves the public and has high moral standards, Inspector Murtagh is a disingenuous self-serving individual who presides over a precinct that is an infestation on the community. The only thing that are interested in protecting is their pensions.
Their placards allow them to park in all manner of places however they are not allowed to park in bus stops http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/584, fire hydrants http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/452, cross walks, on the side walk http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/454, or in no standing/stopping anytime zones http://nyc.uncivilservants.org/post/index/1073.

mvodohmh

Posted on Wed, Jul 08 2009 at 11:25 AM

Here we go again... Hiyall bringing up irrelevant info to support his theories. Hiyall, why not state how those three youths died? Don't remember? I'll refresh your memory:
Carolina Hernandez, 13, Killed when driver didn't see her or her bike 8/16/07
Asif Rahman, 22, Killed when truck hit him as he navigated around an illegally parked car 2/28/08
Jasmine Paragas, 14, Killed by bus that was speeding to make a light
In the top two instances, there were NO BIKE LANES whatsoever. The last entry, the bus driver was at fault, no excuses.

All their deaths were unnecessary, but they were all located in QUEENS!!!! What does it have to do with the upper east side? Only in your twisted point of view it does. And I'm still waiting for your involvement with that woman who JAYWALKED across the street hiyall. Aren't you always saying that the cars you take pictures of their owners go shopping? How does that hinder business? I think it promotes business...
Dragon, he can't because it would mean he would have to use common sense...LOL...

Fuss

Posted on Sat, Jul 11 2009 at 01:35 PM

For the record, community boards are as useless as tits on a bull. They lack any authority to make changes in the way the TEA/NYPD conducts itself within their self enforcement areas. They should stick to sipping their lattes and reading the new york times.

VirginiaJim

Posted on Wed, Jul 27 2011 at 10:19 AM

Well, I can take some comfort in knowing that corruption like this 'mutual respect' jive would not fly in the Virginia State Police - they have no union, as Commonwealth law does NOT let the cops form unions. This prohibition on unionizing means those sworn to uphold and defend the laws of the Commonwealth are expected to obey it. Perhaps NYC should abolish / outlaw the NYPD's union? Of course, that is for NYC to decide. But...isn't it worth considering?

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