It is a marked bike lane and it is also part of a special enforcement zone. On the other side of Adams the police have put cones to keep cars off of it. Obviously Blue Trumpet you know not of what you trumpet.

This is a message for BlueTrumpet. But first, I'd like to preface it by saying that I've had some very productive phone conversations with extremely helpful officers at several precincts and police headquarters.

BlueTrumpet, your arrogance is frightening. Civilians lose trust and respect for NYPD as a result of comments like yours. You might not care or think so, but you are an absolute detriment to the force. I've had very positive experiences with NYPD. People reading this need to understand that you are an aberration.

For an officer, your ignorance is shameful. This section of road is designated by the NYC Department of Transportation as a "class 2 bicycle lane, on street, striped route". The plainly visible 8" wide section of cobblestone set 4' from the right curbline should have given you a clue. You sound very foolish asserting "facts" that you have very little clue about when the evidence is clearly presented in the photo.

Furthermore, in response to your incessant, droning mindlessness about "anything going in an SEZ", you are simply wrong. Last night, 311 connected me with NYPD headquarters, where a representative informed me that parking at a hydrant within an SEZ, even with an NYPD permit is illegal. This information came directly from NYPD. I then contacted the community affairs office at my local precinct to corroborate that information. My local precinct gave gave me the same information.

Here's the kicker, Mr. Trumpet. I just got off the phone with the community affairs office at the 84th precinct in downtown BK. The officer told me that parking where this car is parked on Adams St, in the bike lane, within an SEZ, with an NYPD permit is "absolutely not" legal, and that he would be contacting his supervisor about it.

You are a disgrace, Mr. Trumpet! Pip Pip Cheerio!

Blue Trumpet: If you look at the picture there is a black & white sign down by the green car. That sign says, "BIKE LANE" or you can go down there and check it out yourself or you can just contunue to be ignorant & arrogant.

BlueTrumpet -- you're right. Ignorance is not bliss: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/bike/mapfront.pdf

And you're certainly right about the classic ways of giving folks the run around. That's one of the reasons we have this site -- to systematically identify and address the underlying systemic problems. BK usefully confirmed "official policy," which we already KNOW is not the practice on the ground. Will that solve the problem? Obviously not. But it's one less excuse.

This is a marathon, not a sprint, and your frantic dissembling, threats and bluster show that you already see that you see that the status quo is threatened.

Mr. Trumpet, kind sir (I liked that).

You are fun to talk to. I will admit that.

For your reference:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/pdf/bike/mapfront.pdf

First off, did I say a single thing about summonses? I don't care about summonses. We want our streets free and clear. Who cares about summonses?

Perhaps I was stroked. But if your statement is true, it sure does say something about the department, huh? Come to think of it, you've inadvertently said a lot of pretty bad things about the department in other posts, huh? I'd sure be mad at you if I were a cop. I might even scowl at you and say things behind your back.

Let me ask, Mr. Trumpet, (I prefer that to "Mr. Blue"--but please, let me know if you have a preference) if your statement is true, why has the 84 done such a fantastic job of banning civil servants (including NYPD) from parking on this strip of road? The officer at the 84 informed me that they made it a priority to do so after they'd received so many calls from people like me.

Perhaps the stroking got out of control? But you're used to that, I'm sure.

And to end this love note, I described to the officer at the 84 in great detail and complexity (oh, you should have heard me, Mr. Trumpet!), where the vehicle with the NYPD permit in the above photo was parked. Sure enough, he repeated that it was "absolutely not" legal to park in that location because it is a bike lane. I now have the unfortunate task of calling him back to inform him that Mr. Trumpet has informed me that he is mistaken.

With love and teddy bears,
bk

Oh, I didn't ever think you cared about my feelings. You're no softy, Mr. Blue. My bran muffin is intact, except that it's not bran. It's pork. Sounds strange, I know, but it's true.

You assume much. I have lived in the 84 for my entire life. I do not own a car. You are pissing on MY lawn, sir. And frankly, I couldn't care less about civilians being able to find parking. I wouldn't care if every legal spot in the city was occupied by NYPD.

I misjudged you. You are capable of constructing sentences, and with them, paragraphs. However, I ask you to please re-read your post. You've addressed nothing I've said with words of any substance. You hold strong and true to your message. "I don't care and it's too bad for everyone else". You bolster our cause because you have no legitimate defense for what you say. "It's right because my poppa says it is." This issue is far bigger than your daddy. Your daddy has a daddy, and he has a daddy. And when that daddy decides that there will be change, there will be change. And he decides when the public outcry becomes deafening. Read on.

Mr. Blue, I'm not at all opposed to the city giving NYPD more legal spots, and to forbid civilians from parking in those locations. After all, you will put your face in front of a bullet for me if need be. Spots are absolutely deserved, in my opinion. The same goes for FDNY. I've said this in numerous posts.

But this illegal parking in bike lanes and at hydrants is utter bullurine, and you know that. Your daddy is responsible for the things you do. You have made it clear over and over again that you are the type of person who must be told what's right and wrong, and incapable of responsible judgment, which shows a real lack of character. No one told you not to piss in the hamburger meat, so you'll do it and you don't give a crap who gets sick.

The point is that two years ago, the illegal parking in bike lanes on Adams St. was a disgrace. Enough people phoned in that 84 had to clean it up. Today, there are very few people doing it, if any at all. That's a fact. I know you'll say, "No it isn't. PERIOD.", like an 8-year-old (and I'm being generous). You can deny that this is happening till your tail pops off, but it has already happened. When it comes down to it, you have no choice but to listen to daddy. Daddy told people like you to stop being a nuisance, and they did. There was no other choice. You bent to daddy, who bent to us. This site has nothing to do with day-to-day complaints. It's here for the bigger picture. The department is now cracking down in Chinatown for the same reason. We'll see what happens.

This has nothing to do with what you want, Mr. Blue. This has to do with what the public wants. You serve us. I want you and every other officer serving this city to have your legal spots. But parking illegally and claiming you're not makes you look doofy. Your statements about the bike lane not being a bike lane are ridiculous, which you know. You're the intellectual equivalent of the Flat Earth Society.

bk writes: "After all, you will put your face in front of a bullet for me if need be."

Now that's something I would never count on.

That is most definitely a bike lane. Drive over and take a look. I bike it every day and it is marked w/ both paint and with signage. In fact you can see a sign in the picture.

Bike lane? Its full of crater and bad crumbling tar patches. Someone call 311 to get this repaired.

Besides being a bike lane(there is another sign just behind the illegally parked car) Its also a no standing zone. Buses have a hard time making it down this street especially with Bike riders having to swerve to avoid illegally parked cars. Capt Able of the 8-4 will not be happy about this one.

For those that take BT at face value... he is getting way too much mileage out of working people up on this site... it would be a shame to consider him representative of the dept as a whole although i am sure some do

he just seems to have lots of free time ;)

Ley me preface this by saying that I am NYPD Detective. This car is parked right outside a Brooklyn courthouse. It is not parked legally, I agree. However let me play devil's advocate for a minute. I have testified in Brooklyn courts many times and finding a parking spot is very difficult. Just last week, I was down there to testify in a rape trial. I had to first go to the police lab in Jamaica to retrieve evidence, then I had to be in court to testify. By the time I fought traffic to get to downtown Brooklyn, form Jamaica, my appearance time was nearing. I drove around about a ten block radius in this area and could not find a legal spot. My main concern was getting to the courtroom to take a rapist off OUR streets (yes I am a life long NYer). I finally had to park in this bike lane, and head to court, and get questioned on the stand for two hours. All went well and hopefully this piece of garbage will never see the light of day again. I am not a fan of this site, because I think many of the photos displayed can be fairly explained if the people parking were given the chance. I had to choose the lesser of two evils and that was parking illegally, rather than blowing a rape case. I wonder what the papers would have wrote if I blew a rape case because I could not find a parking spot, and this man went on to victimize again. I agree some people take advantage of their parking placards, but often times their are legitimate reasons. I don't abuse my placard with my personal vehicle, but when it comes to work, sometimes there are higher priorities. Maybe this officer/ detective was in a similiar boat.

There is the rub. The city SHOULD provide off street parking at the courts. They do it in Queens and there is a lot in Manhattan(at PD Headquarters) with sufficient parking. Every city I know of has appropriate off street parking for its PD except NY. I don't understand when they rebuild the Police Stations or the Courts why this isn't done. If it had been done it wouldn't be a problem. There is an outdoor lot by Boro Hall that could be made into an approrpiate lot for those who HAVE to be there. Unfortunately most of the cars parked are not one day parkers looking to testify but people who really don't need the cars but use them to commute.

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Another rub: in Jamaica, even with the newly reconditioned large municipal lots (2), the permit parkers don't use them--they use their permits to park at the meters closer to the courthouse. Similar situation in St. George, Staten Island, where the ballpark parking lot is usable by government workers. They don't want to walk the extra few blocks, and know they can get away with parking at meters and in restricted areas near the court.

In both cases, when merchants made a fuss and asked for enforcement, the Court Officers mounted a boycott and campaign to keep even jurists from frequenting the merchants who asked for enforcement of the law. We have copies of the fliers they put up--in St. George, they even had gravestones and ghost figures drawn on to the fliers with the name of the local merchant organization. Not only was the intimidation campaign successful in the short run (enforcement stopped), the merchants won't speak out again publicly on the issue for fear of reprisals.

well I guess than its a good idea that they have this site get the pcitures of the flyers up on this site and write the Mayor,,,as a lame duck he doesn't care about the Unions anyway.