unfortunately it's up to the traffic cop to issue ticket or not which is highly unlikely in reality.

When will the clueless posters here realize that UFA placards are indeed valid on all city streets and that no self respecting TEA agent would issue these people a summons. This is a reasonable assumption especially when I am a Traffic Enforcement . If you look closely at the windshield there is not one summons visible on the car..I wonder why?
The constant complaining will not change the facts.......... A SUMMONS WILL NOT BE ISSUED............END OF STORY!

yeah that's why i don't bother with this placard either. not worth the effort.

Its parked in front of a firehouse.

mikeb - sure is, but that doesn't make it any more legal.

It is there SEZ. I wish more police, fire and ems station would park legally like my station does. We only release the legal spots to our own members. Now the community has no where to park. That is what you get when you complain.

Also the public started to park in our SEZ because they can not find legally paring spots. We call the local precinct or TEA station on them. Its nice to see these illegally parked cars in our SEZ get a ticket and a boot or impounded.

Mikeb, same thing is happening at our facility on 30th street. We now use up all the legal parking spots and the community thinks that they can now park in our designated spots ......WRONG! I love it when they park in our spots and put a note or a menu saying that they are a local merchant. I just scan their registrations and give them a temporary orange parking permit at a cost of $115 per day. I tuck it under their wipers and waltz away with a smile.

Every NYPD, NYFD and other agencies should take up all the legal spots in the neighborhood. Only give the spots to fellow workers. Then the complainers like Lawandaorder, Hiyall, Uncivil will have nothing to complain about until they can't find a spot for them except Lawandorder he doesn't drive.

Wow, dragonman, it took you how many years to figure out this point of this site -- to get civil servants to park legally? Ah, but since there aren't enough legal spots for placards, then many civil servants will need to figure something else out, and not drive to work. That's what happens when you lose "free" parking. Yes, then I won't "complain", at least not about this issue.

Congrats on the revelation.

You don't get the point that I'm making. If they did park legally then the people who live in that area will not be able to park. They will start to complain about that, But this doesn't concern you. You don't care if the people in the area can't find a place to park because YOU DON'T DRIVE. Why do i have to figure out another way to get to work. I drive to work everyday. I don't take the bus like you do. You choose to do that i don't choose to do that. God bless my placard.

Guess I spoke too soon!

99% of the people don't care about placard parking. Most of them are happy that they are allowed to park where they want to park. They say it opens up legal spots for the average Joe. You don't drive so none of this affects you. So nobody really cares about what you think Lawandorder or how the others that complain on this web site. It's kinda strange that when I park where they can't park I get thank you for leaving that spot for me. So believe me Lawandorder you and the others are not making a difference.

I started to work at another station and got them on board as well. We spent a few hours trying to figure out how to overcome the street cleaning closures and park legally with out losing the spaces. The solution that I came up with is great. We park all of the spare department vehicles on the street. Once street cleaning is up we switch the department vehicles with out personal vehicles. What is so great about this is the department vehicles can not be ticketed or towed. After we switch the vehicles, they are legally parked and cannot be summoned, booted or towed. But the second a vehicle with out a placard parks in our SEZ we pick up the phone and call the local police station or TEA station. I like it when they get a ticket. But I love it when the TEA comes and gives them a ticket and a boot or ticket and a tow.

Also it is in our contract to have a area for parking. The city used to by land to meet this requirement. Someone had the brilliant idea of assigning us street parking in order to save money. That is where the SEZ comes in. Would you rather the city use eminent domain to build us these parking lots? Just think of all of the police, fire, and ems stations in Manhattan. With the current real estate market it will cost millions just to buy the land and thousands more to build the parking lot. Now multiply that by each station in manhattan. The cost would be in the billions of dollars. This is for manhattan only. So which would you rather have our SEZ or the city spending billions of dollars for parking lots?

By the way Lawandorder, You keep saying that we should use public transportation. You live in the city. I don't live in the city. If I was to take public transportation it would take me 3 hours to get to work and probably longer to get home. I do live in one of the 5 boroughs in New York City if that is your next response. GOD BLESS MY PLACARD.

The silence is deafening.

Yes the silence is deafening. They don't like it when hear the truth.

mikeb - the City is not required to provide parking for FDNY employees (or NYPD for that matter). Your contract says to "the maximum extent practicable and consistent with City policy" you may get max 6 parking spaces per company, and that DOT (not UFA or the tooth fairy) will issue permits. And the spaces will be appropriately marked, which means you may not park in Fire Zones.

Lawandorder you have it all wrong. It is written in our contract that every member of our station must be provided with a parking space. My station has 22 members on at any giving time. FYI what do you think a fire zone is in front of a station?

mikeb - Show me the contract. Perhaps I have an older one, but I am 99% sure in any newer one, the City has not suddenly decided to guarantee a ridiculous amount of free parking in front of every firehouse.

And as for Fire Zones, they are No Standing zones -- NYC Administrative Code and NYC VTL both prohibit any private vehicle, including ones with Union placards (which are legally meaningless when it comes to traffic laws), from parking there.

Lawandorder you are wrong again. The signage they use for a sez for a fire house is no parking in a fire zone. The signage they use in a nypd sez is a no parking sign except authorized vehicle listed below nypd. For ems stations it depends on two things. IF the station was a old firehouse it will have the same signage as a fire house no parking or standing in a fire zone. If it was not a old firehouse it will no parking sign except authorized vehicle listed below ambulance. These are our sez.

Mikeb as usual you are correct and Lawandorder is wrong as usual.

mikeb: sounds pretty convoluted and extralegal to me. got any documentation on these "rules"? Coz it's funny, for some reason they're not on any actual law books, DOT policy guide or anything. In fact, every law I've seen says you are incorrect. So, since we've had a pretty civil and engaging disussion on here (as opposed to some of the usual cranks).. can you actually dig up any documentation on these rules? i'm sure the results would be most interesting. thanks.

Law it's in their contract which you are not privilege to see just like it's in mine.

Yet more dribble. This is a contractual matter and what is deemed illegal in this photo is actually legal as described in the union contract of the FDNY. If this were not the case then the car would have a summons. WHERE IS IT? Yeah, mpre silence from king dribble.